Suggestions To Make Powerlifting More Marketable

Create: 01/27/2006 - 07:35
An APF Outlaws thread takes a look at some possible ways to make powerlifting more marketable. The original poster makes a few suggestions:

1. Get rid of bench shirts. I am not anti-gear by anymeans but everyone has to admit bench shirts look rediculous and have gotten out of hand. When I have shown "normal" people my videos from meets the first thing they say is "What are you wearing?"... This would also solve two other problems. Namely not having muscular winners and frequent bombouts. The bench shirts are the reason for a majority of the bombouts... Also with bench shirts gone you would have more of the muscular, more marketable guys doing well. Look at the best powerlifters from the era before bench shirts. Almost all of these guys were stacked. Kaz, Arcidi, Pacifico, etc.

Lat Pulldowns As A Substitute For Pullups

Create: 01/26/2006 - 08:48
A Dr. Squat poster suggests lat pulldowns are a good substitute for pullups when someone can only do five or less pullups. He asks for confirmation from others. Replies suggest they make a good if inferior substitute:

Lat pull-downs is a great exercise to mimic the pull-ups. Pull-ups are definitely harder, but you can build up weight on the pulldowns until you have sufficient strength to properly perform pull-ups.

More On Accepting Bad Lifts

Create: 01/26/2006 - 08:40
Fortified Iron addresses the question of whether a lifter would accept a bad lift in a bit different way. The question is posed as a multiple choice:

Your squatting you have missed the first 2 attempts you need your third to stay in the meet,You cut it 2" high and you know it. The judges give you a gift and this gives you the 1st place trophy in your wieght class. *would you accept the lift and rejoice at your achievement *would you accept the lift but turn down the placement *would you accept the lift and bitch about bad calls after the meet *would you decline the lift to take you out of the meet

Would You Turn Down A Bad Lift?

Create: 01/26/2006 - 08:15
Billy Mimnaugh asks lifters at Go Heavy and APF Outlaws whether they would turn down a lift at a meet if it actually wasn't legal. He asks:

If you lift in a meet and you know you have squatted high but get whites,do accept the lift?It seems some are under the impression that you should somehow decline the lift to protect the integrity of the sport.In all my years of lifting,I have seen only two guys decline lifts,Anthony Clake and Bill Crawford.I have never seen any other lifter do this so tell me what you would do.

So You Want To Deadlift With A Hook Grip?

Create: 01/26/2006 - 07:36
A poster at Go Heavy has recently switched to a hook grip and is having some troubles adjusting to it. He says:

I just started using the hook grip. I find I can hold on to less weight this way than conventional. Of course, this was only my second day trying it. Do the thumbs get numb to the point of not interfering? It feels like it's going to slip out, the bar that is, is this just a rookie problem? Any advice, or tips would be much appreciated. The weight I am training with is suffering, cuz I can hold on to less in this manner.

Powerlifting Is Too Fractured To Get Sponsor Dollars

Create: 01/26/2006 - 07:09
Vincent Dizenzo cites the fractured condition of powerlifting as the reason why powerlifting isn't receiving sponsor dollars over at APF Outlaws. Dizenzo:

Our sport will never get the money that is available out there because we are too fractured. We have twenty different federations. Everyone has their own agenda. Too many chiefs and not enough indians. If fed owners could pull us all together we would have a collective voice in the marketplace. Instead we will just make this about looks gear and drugs. Meanwhile other sports have all of those issues and still manage to find the money. I posted on GoHeavy to Arthur Jones about bowling. It is most certainly not a sexy sport, but there seems to be enough money to go around for them.

Do Powerlifers Have To Juice?

Create: 01/25/2006 - 09:22
A poster at Anabolic Review wonders whether powerlifters have to use juice in order to be successful. He also asks:

can you still get good numbers after years of hard work without juicing?

Some answers:

with good genetics, good diet, smart training, yes you can get very strong and be very competitive in powerlifting w/o steriods. Will you make the freaky gains as fast, NO. Will you get as strong w/o the steriods, NO. But you can be a successful powerlifter w/o steriods. You will need to compete in the right organizations though. You will have to compete in actual drug tested organizations. Sad to say there really aren't many out there...

Forum Bashing

Create: 01/25/2006 - 08:58
A few APF Outlaw threads here, here and here touch on the so called negativity and bashing which occurs on the web and in forums. However, is it bashing to offer your opinion? Should powerlifters shut up if they don't agree with something going on in their sport? Are people being way to sensitive? Is it all just a red herring?

Why Face Plates In?

Create: 01/25/2006 - 08:30
A Fortified Iron poster wants to know why people load the bar with the plates facing inward. It becomes apparent from the responses that actually there is not one standard method nor any standard reason why:

Personal preference. I always loaded the bar that way as well but after I started training with a crew that competed I was instructed to load the first plate face in and the rest face out as per the rules of the APF Federation that we lift in. As far as a technical reason, I don't know of one.

Interview With Dave Tate

Create: 01/25/2006 - 07:31
Elite FTS (PDF) has an interview Diesel Crew did with Dave Tate. How he got into strength and conditioning:

I have always been in it. There was no getting into it. I remember getting a weight set for Christmas in 1981. That was the gif and day that changed my life forever. As I was going through my education I had an advisor and he would tell me there would be no money or success to come from lifting weights and I had to focus on other things. What they did not see was that my focus and passion was set and I knew there would be a way to get what I truly wanted. So while they are still working in their crappy offices trying to destroy childhood dreams - I am fucking living mine!

The Future Of Powerlifting

Create: 01/24/2006 - 08:44
Kieran Kidder, the head of the WPO/WPC/APF, made a thought provoking post last week entitled "Prize $$$.Sponsorship/Image. Future of the WPO." In that post, he examines the image of powerlifting, how he feels it ties to sponsor dollars all within the context of advancing powerlifting. I generally try to stay away from putting my opinions forward here at Powerlifting Watch, but I've decided to offer them up on this subject. This post will look at some of Kidder's thoughts as well as others from around powerlifting, as they apply to growing powerlifting so that it gains a broader appeal. Is there a reason why powerlifting must broaden its appeal? Absolutely not. For those wishing it to remain solely a grassroots sport, this editorial isn't for you. Rather, it's for those who would like to watch powerlifting on television and see bigger pay outs to top lifters.

Sponsorship Dollars Will Change Powerlifting

Create: 01/24/2006 - 08:35
There's been a lot of talk recently about securing sponsor dollars for powerlifting events. A poster at Go Heavy comments that adding those dollars will change powerlifting, probably in a negative way:

Powerlifting like all sports ceases to be about true sport and athletics the moment $MONEY$ is introduced! The very nature of sports is changed and it becomes a matter of "ENTERTAINING" the crowd. The wrestling establishment was the first and only sport (if you call it that) that realized this and reinvented itself to become the $BILLION DOLLAR industry it has become. In order for powerlifting to thrive it must adapt to its audience and decide if it wants to be a grassroots "fan" based sport or a "MASS-APPEAL" sport for a larger audience! You cant have it both ways. If its all about $$$ then go for the mainstream audience and entertainment value. "BUT" if its about the real power-fans then stick to pure lifting and forget about the sponsorship game! Sponsors give you money and then you become their "whore" doing what your told and taking away your rights to make your own decisions. THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE AT THE ARNOLD WATCHING THE "BENCH MEET" ALONE TO PAY FOR THE PRIZE $$$ AND KEEP THE MEET ABOUT THE FANS AND LIFTERS AND NOT COMPANIES!... There are enough spectators (3000)? to make up the difference instead of crybaby sponsors!

Do Gear Companies Support Powerlifting?

Create: 01/24/2006 - 07:43
There's clearly a shortage of sponsor dollars for powerlifting's premier events. The recent WPO and Bench America troubles illustrate this point. A poster at APF Outlaws observes that Kieran Kidder is unable to bring sponsors even from within the powerlifting world to the WPO. He says:

Over the years i have been involved in many differet sports at many different levels and one thing they all had in common was support from the companies within the sport itself. When was the last time Inzer, Titan, Crains, or Metal put up some $$ for the WPO? After all this event is there biggest advertisment as everyone wants to know what the biggest lifter was wearing. If gear companies want to survie i suggest they start giving a little more back!

Squatting Barefoot

Create: 01/24/2006 - 07:34
A poster is new to squatting barefoot and asks for some advice on whether he should continue doing so. He says:

i shake going down and i feel like my knees and ankles are going to fold over. i was telling my freind about this and he said that he squats barefoot all the time and it made him stronger, anyone have an opinion or help they could offer me.


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