That poster gets an earful from many subsequent posters:
i think that any peice of equippment that isnt single ply poly is bull shit.
I think it's funny when someone *****es about how crazy gear is getting, and then extols the virtue of single-ply gear. My bench in a off-the-shelf 1-ply Fury is a good 25% higher than my raw press. IPF-legal gear certainly ain't what is was in 1990.
Funny, I train with a ton of lifters and everyone I know can bench about the same thing in a single ply Rage as they can in a jacked up Double Denim, if not more.
I don't understand all the poeple using raw and single ply poly in the same catagory practically! I don't think the one ply poly guys have any more right to stand on a soap box and say they're more true to the sport than the 2 ply guys do... You're either equipped or raw....period!
The USAPL guys that think there Metal viking, Inzer Hardcore or Titan suits are the same as the suits of yesterday are just plain blind. And to say they are close to raw is stupid... In this day in time you are geared or you are not.
Even with all of these sound points of view, it's guaranteed that someone will offer the same anti multi-ply equipment view in another thread.
my biggest issue is with people that think single is okay and double is not. IMO, there is no philosophical difference between single and double ply. The shirt is getting the weight off your chest, not you. If you want to cross the line and wear something that gets it off your chest for you, then don't complain that others wear something that gets MORE off their chest. Tiny Meeker, Steve Wong, and Jason Jackson are doing more than anyone to obliterate the line between single and double plys. They're pushing the single-ply envelope so far that no one can complain about double-ply shirts.