Donnie Thompson- We were the "Death of Geared Lifting"?

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 06:52 -- admin
We were the "Death of Geared Lifting"? Mark Bell did one of them Podcasts yesterday. It was told to me by my friend, Joshua Anderson, that part of the discussion included what caused the death of Geared Lifting almost 7 years ago? One of the theories of course was me and David Hoff! His 2900 plus total at 23 years old and my 3000 total barrier vested was just a little too much for powerlifters to comprehend....so they quit and went raw, bad mouthing gear in the process of their recession. read more

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Submitted by Jeff Hackett 1 on

Multiply is dead and not likely to return. Donnie' s "1300" squat killed it, it was so high and then then failing at the top of the lift, which is the easiest part of the lift, because his wraps cut off the circulation to his legs, that he couldn't feel them was the straw. Also geared lifters saying they actually got weaker after they took the gear off maid many want to get back to the point of lifting, getting stronger.

Submitted by James C on

[quote=Jeff Hackett 1]Multiply is dead and not likely to return. Donnie' s "1300" squat killed it, it was so high and then then failing at the top of the lift, which is the easiest part of the lift, because his wraps cut off the circulation to his legs, that he couldn't feel them was the straw. Also geared lifters saying they actually got weaker after they took the gear off maid many want to get back to the point of lifting, getting stronger.[/quote]

Jeff,

while you are probably right about multiply lifting being on the way out, I don't think this can be attributed to Donnie Thompson's lifting. I'm also not sure how true it is that lifters got weaker raw after taking the gear off for two reasons:
1 - many raw numbers supposedly achieved in training were exaggerated
2 - Many multiply lifters also lift raw even if only in warm ups, so a good level of raw strength should be maintained
Even with not much focus on raw lifting, Donnie was close to a 2200lb raw total (no wraps) including 800+ in both squat and deadlift under fairly strict judging at the NERB meet in 2006; Ed Coan was one of the judges. ..

Under similar conditions, I would guess that total has been beaten by 20 people or less in the last 10 years (Williams, Uepa, Koklyaev, Siders, Sumner, Efferding, Lilliebridge, Branton, Ok I can only think of 8 but there are several more).
Ok - not an all time total, but pretty good for a "weak" multiply guy!

Regarding failing the squat near the top - John Kuc mentions this as being a common problem for high bar style squatters and he never went beyond single ply lifting so I really don't think that failure mechanism is responsible for the death of multiply lifting either!

I also don't agree with Donnie that the 3000 lb total killed multiply as I believe Sumner will hit 3000 single ply IPF style and I don't expect that to kill single ply lifting... Multiply lifting had some great days with WPO meets and crazy totals but it's time is passing now.

Submitted by Jeff Hackett 1 on

[quote=James C]<blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">Jeff Hackett 1</em> wrote: </div>Multiply is dead and not likely to return. Donnie' s "1300" squat killed it, it was so high and then then failing at the top of the lift, which is the easiest part of the lift, because his wraps cut off the circulation to his legs, that he couldn't feel them was the straw. Also geared lifters saying they actually got weaker after they took the gear off maid many want to get back to the point of lifting, getting stronger.</blockquote>

Jeff,

while you are probably right about multiply lifting being on the way out, I don't think this can be attributed to Donnie Thompson's lifting. I'm also not sure how true it is that lifters got weaker raw after taking the gear off for two reasons:
1 - many raw numbers supposedly achieved in training were exaggerated
2 - Many multiply lifters also lift raw even if only in warm ups, so a good level of raw strength should be maintained
Even with not much focus on raw lifting, Donnie was close to a 2200lb raw total (no wraps) including 800+ in both squat and deadlift under fairly strict judging at the NERB meet in 2006; Ed Coan was one of the judges. ..

Under similar conditions, I would guess that total has been beaten by 20 people or less in the last 10 years (Williams, Uepa, Koklyaev, Siders, Sumner, Efferding, Lilliebridge, Branton, Ok I can only think of 8 but there are several more).
Ok - not an all time total, but pretty good for a "weak" multiply guy!

Regarding failing the squat near the top - John Kuc mentions this as being a common problem for high bar style squatters and he never went beyond single ply lifting so I really don't think that failure mechanism is responsible for the death of multiply lifting either!

I also don't agree with Donnie that the 3000 lb total killed multiply as I believe Sumner will hit 3000 single ply IPF style and I don't expect that to kill single ply lifting... Multiply lifting had some great days with WPO meets and crazy totals but it's time is passing now.[/quote]

I mentioned lifters getting weaker because geard lifters were saying so. By weaker they meant their raw numbers were lower after geard lifting for a long time. I'm sure with a little training their numbers would come up dramatically.

As far as Donnie goes multiply took an immediate nose dive after his squat and total. This doesn't prove that he did but the correlation is easy to see.

Submitted by jmkillin on

The big lifts in multi and single ply competition are always going to draw fan interest...if someone is squatting 1,300lbs, I'm going out of my way to see that, but for most of us the raw and raw with wraps lifting is more lifter friendly. Support suits and shirts are expensive, rarely fit right, and most need help getting into the stuff. BTW, it was nice to see the equipment manufacturers adapt to the raw lifting by being able to market the $100 singlet.

Submitted by LiftingChamp on

I don't know who started this rumor geared lifting is dead but it's not true. As proof: Just during Jan, Feb & March of this year (2017) I have sold over $16,000 dollars in Lifting Suits & Bench Shirts on eBay. If geared lifting is dead, who's buying all this gear? Believe me, I have my finger on the pulse of geared lifting and its VERY much alive and growing again! Mad Max