Should Powerliftingwatch.com keep track of the Sub-Master division ?

Mon, 05/25/2015 - 13:05 -- 1athleticfreak
Yes
38% (190 votes)
No
44% (225 votes)
Maybe
3% (13 votes)
Don't care
15% (78 votes)
Total votes: 506

Comments

Submitted by Jeff Hackett 1 on
If it is a real division then yes, if not then no. J Hack. ... all things are possible to him that believeth.

Submitted by James C on
No. IT's questionable whether age group lifting should even begin at 40 - maybe 50 is better. Masters under 40 is not necessary at all.

Submitted by JASON MANENKOFF on
[quote=James C]No. IT's questionable whether age group lifting should even begin at 40 - maybe 50 is better. Masters under 40 is not necessary at all.[/quote] Agree 100%. There were numerous 40+ year old lifters on both the mens and then womens side at IPF Classic worlds. maybe of these lifters had a top 10 finish as well.

Submitted by grissinger on
[quote=James C]No. IT's questionable whether age group lifting should even begin at 40 - maybe 50 is better. Masters under 40 is not necessary at all.[/quote] Agree. Considering 40 year olds as Masters is an insult. Those are prime years. Not even sure 50 should be considered Masters anymore.

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Submitted by admin on
Honestly the best lifters in the world are in their 40's in this day and age...Its a different time.. I think some part of it is that today we are taking a longer time to reach goals.. partly due to work and family commitments. In the eighties lifters were skyrocketing in their 20's and retiring by their late 20's early 30's.. and very few made into their 40's healthy. ~Johnny Vasquez

Submitted by eggsurplus on
I vote for tracking a Pre-Children division and a Post-Children division.

Submitted by powerdoc on
I did a paper in PT school on masters athletes. Interestingly, endurance athletes start to show mitochondria deterioration in their late 30s. This is a definite disadvantage against younger athletes. Strength athletes don't show a serious degeneration of nerve inervation to muscles until their 50s. So, my thought is Powerlifting masters should rightfully start at 50 whereas running and triathlons should continue to start masters at 35 to 40.

Submitted by Altered Beast on
It has to do with hormonal output. By 35 you've already experience two natural decreases in endogenous testosterone production (most around 25 and 35) and one decrease in natural HGH production (most around 30). Hence the Sub-Masters category. You simply can't compete against younger lifters no matter how much stuff you're running. Nature always wins. Many lifters don't want to compete open. They're there to compete against themselves and to continue better themselves and there is nothing wrong with that. All I hear is people bitch about how Powerlifting grows at a snail's pace. Well the commentary & mentality above seems to add to that stigma, unfortunately.

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Submitted by grissinger on
[quote=Altered Beast]It has to do with hormonal output. By 35 you've already experience two natural decreases in endogenous testosterone production (most around 25 and 35) and one decrease in natural HGH production (most around 30). Hence the Sub-Masters category. You simply can't compete against younger lifters no matter how much stuff you're running. Nature always wins. Many lifters don't want to compete open. They're there to compete against themselves and to continue better themselves and there is nothing wrong with that. All I hear is people bitch about how Powerlifting grows at a snail's pace. Well the commentary & mentality above seems to add to that stigma, unfortunately. [/quote] I voted no but after reading this I changed my mind....We all need a list to camouflage our mediocracy as greatness. We, the mediocre ones, compete against ourselves....But we still need rankings to prove to the unknowing how great we are. This is sarcasm. It is ridiculous to separately rank 35-40 year olds. The "sub masters" life experiences should counter the 22 year olds stiffer erections. What would be more interesting and productive for the sport would be ranking teenagers. AB you hear people bitching and moaning about the growth of PL? Are they idiots? No logical thinking person would say that PL is impotent right now. It is growing at a very healthy and fun pace. Meets are being capped and fill up very quickly. Lifters are putting up numbers week after week that are simply amazing. The quality and quantity of the female lifter today is unbelievable and becoming more and more noticeable. All in all this is a great time for powerlifting, all of powerlfitng.