What started out with Stan Efferding calling out Johnnie Jackson and Ben White after begin denied a place in the meet that is supposed to determine the world's strongest Pro bodybuilder, the Duel in the Desert at the Olympia, has now escalated with a Heavy Muscle Radio interview with Efferding. That interview prompted Ben White to call in to the show with his response. White says he is benching 500 pounds and deadlifting 600 pounds for reps in training for the meet. Efferding's interview starts at 47:27 of the broadcast. Stan Efferding interview. Ben White's response.