Any gym rat can bench. It takes a lot more intensity and fire to get under a heavy squat. And deaddlift has been done since the time began...see who can lift that heavy rock.
[quote=hulk220]Any gym rat can bench. It takes a lot more intensity and fire to get under a heavy squat. And deaddlift has been done since the time began...see who can lift that heavy rock. [/quote]
I feel like this a lot of the time and then I get a 20 lb PR and all the sudden, I'd rather bench than pull or squat.
i got to say benching because it is the lift that has been the most obscured by equiptment. I know squating has taken some major rediculous changes as well, but those 1000 benches are just rediculous, not locked out, no pause and the fact that the raw record is 715 and the equiped is 1076. that is almost 400 pounds diffrence.
[quote=johngrosulak]i got to say benching because it is the lift that has been the most obscured by equiptment. I know squating has taken some major rediculous changes as well, but those 1000 benches are just rediculous, not locked out, no pause and the fact that the raw record is 715 and the equiped is 1076. that is almost 400 pounds diffrence. [/quote]
both the bench and the squat because i know most of the multi-ply squaters that are under 200 lbs cant squat over 600 without gear but are in the 900's and 1000's with it
[quote=johngrosulak]i got to say benching because it is the lift that has been the most obscured by equiptment. I know squating has taken some major rediculous changes as well, but those 1000 benches are just rediculous, not locked out, no pause and the fact that the raw record is 715 and the equiped is 1076. that is almost 400 pounds diffrence. [/quote]
I know a guy who squats a grand and cant squat 551 without.
Went to a meet at Diablo in Cali and a guy got buried by 315 in the warmup room and squatted 700+ on the platform.
if any lift has been effected the most by gear it is the squat.
I know a guy who squats a grand and cant squat 551 without.
Went to a meet at Diablo in Cali and a guy got buried by 315 in the warmup room and squatted 700+ on the platform.
if any lift has been effected the most by gear it is the squat.[/quote]
i sincerely doubt that.
[quote=Anonymous]I know a guy who squats a grand and cant squat 551 without.
Went to a meet at Diablo in Cali and a guy got buried by 315 in the warmup room and squatted 700+ on the platform.
if any lift has been effected the most by gear it is the squat.[/quote]
i sincerely doubt that. [/quote]
but it is true my friend.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know a guy who squats a grand and cant squat 551 without.
Went to a meet at Diablo in Cali and a guy got buried by 315 in the warmup room and squatted 700+ on the platform.
if any lift has been effected the most by gear it is the squat.[/quote]
i sincerely doubt that. [/quote]
but it is true my friend.[/quote]
Bullshit!!
[quote=Joanick Boilard][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know a guy who squats a grand and cant squat 551 without.
Went to a meet at Diablo in Cali and a guy got buried by 315 in the warmup room and squatted 700+ on the platform.
if any lift has been effected the most by gear it is the squat.[/quote]
i sincerely doubt that. [/quote]
but it is true my friend.[/quote]
Bullshit!![/quote]
it dont really matter how much he gets out of his equipment, bottomline is i am sure he trained hard to get whatever he is getting out of his suits..... poeple train long and hard to get large gains equipped or not. i would be happy to be getting 500lbs. out of a squat suit. it takes just as much hard work and training to achieve large gains out of equipment as it does raw. if you feel like your stronger then some of the guys that are competing equipped then either train harder in your equipment or go raw. either way, good luck.
[quote=Joanick Boilard][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know a guy who squats a grand and cant squat 551 without.
Went to a meet at Diablo in Cali and a guy got buried by 315 in the warmup room and squatted 700+ on the platform.
if any lift has been effected the most by gear it is the squat.[/quote]
i sincerely doubt that. [/quote]
but it is true my friend.[/quote]
Bullshit!![/quote]
He says he can, but when we were lifting together he squatted 551. But, it was about 3 inches high.
So, I guess your right. By your standards he can.
[quote=Anonymous]I know a guy who squats a grand and cant squat 551 without.
Went to a meet at Diablo in Cali and a guy got buried by 315 in the warmup room and squatted 700+ on the platform.
if any lift has been effected the most by gear it is the squat.[/quote]
i sincerely doubt that. [/quote]
Are you serious? I don't compete but I've always wondered how they did it. I squat 430 raw and thought I'd never be able to do 700 in gear.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know a guy who squats a grand and cant squat 551 without.
Went to a meet at Diablo in Cali and a guy got buried by 315 in the warmup room and squatted 700+ on the platform.
if any lift has been effected the most by gear it is the squat.[/quote]
i sincerely doubt that. [/quote]
Are you serious? I don't compete but I've always wondered how they did it. I squat 430 raw and thought I'd never be able to do 700 in gear.[/quote]
throw a suit on and see..... good luck with 700
[quote=Jeff Adkins][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know a guy who squats a grand and cant squat 551 without.
Went to a meet at Diablo in Cali and a guy got buried by 315 in the warmup room and squatted 700+ on the platform.
if any lift has been effected the most by gear it is the squat.[/quote]
i sincerely doubt that. [/quote]
Are you serious? I don't compete but I've always wondered how they did it. I squat 430 raw and thought I'd never be able to do 700 in gear.[/quote]
throw a suit on and see..... good luck with 700[/quote]
haha and please video it
[quote=Josh Rohr]I want put a write in vote of: Curls[/quote]
Second that!
Bottom line, you need all three lifts to powerlift. Given, i enjoy specialty meets as much as the next guy(mostly due to knee problems), there is nothing that can compare to doing a full meet and competing! (which is why i do at least one full power each year)
Plus, THE MEET DONT START UNTIL THE BAR HITS THE FLOOR anyways!!!
[quote=John Polak][quote=NolanPower]How could anybody vote deadlift[/quote]
If you are built all wrong, with short arms and legs.
[/quote]
Or if you are old and arthritic like me and it hurts like hell to get down to the bar! LOL! They should start a new division in Masters call Push/Sit for total...Bench and Squat...just kidding!
this thread is so dumb. seriouslyu talks of elimintating the squat from powerlifting....put the bar on ur back bend ur knees go deep and stand up the concept couldnt really be any clearer
[quote=eggsurplus][quote]Would it be safe to say that your English class was pretty boreding as well?[/quote]
Top 10 funniest post on this site.[/quote]
I second this one! Thanks for the laugh.
AND Squats are just something for the crowd to watch while we "benchers" warm up. Deadlifts are something for the crowd to watch while the meet director figures out the "best lifter" for bench. LOL
[quote=Roger Ryan][quote=eggsurplus][quote]Would it be safe to say that your English class was pretty boreding as well?[/quote]
Top 10 funniest post on this site.[/quote]
I second this one! Thanks for the laugh.
AND Squats are just something for the crowd to watch while we "benchers" warm up. Deadlifts are something for the crowd to watch while the meet director figures out the "best lifter" for bench. LOL[/quote]
too funny
I hate benching because as soon as someone figures out that you lift the next words out of their mouth are..."how much you bench?" No one but other powerlifters have ever asked " what do you squat or dead"...benching is overrated!
[quote=Anonymous]I hate benching because as soon as someone figures out that you lift the next words out of their mouth are..."how much you bench?" No one but other powerlifters have ever asked " what do you squat or dead"...benching is overrated![/quote]
if u cant bench much at all, then maybe it sucks to be asked that. once u start puttin up big numbers its fun to see the look on their faces.
I understand the disdain for guys who only do upper body and bench twice their squat but come on benching is fun and it is something that everyone who lifts can relate to. If a run of the mill gym rat asks how much you bench and you tell him 400 he will be impressed but if you say you squat 550 that doesn't mean much because if he squats he probably does quarter squats and loads it up. On the other hand if he tried to bench 400 he would crush himself when the weight came down to his chest. Benching is great because people other than powerlifters can understand how heavy a big bench really is.
"... but if you say you squat 550 that doesn't mean much because if he squats he probably does quarter squats and loads it up."
Totally agree with this statement and it pisses me off! You tell someone that you squat over 5 and then they say, "Me too!". Next time you see them squatting in the gym they go down a few inches and are screaming their ass off. Ridiculous
[quote=Anonymous]I understand the disdain for guys who only do upper body and bench twice their squat but come on benching is fun and it is something that everyone who lifts can relate to. If a run of the mill gym rat asks how much you bench and you tell him 400 he will be impressed but if you say you squat 550 that doesn't mean much because if he squats he probably does quarter squats and loads it up. On the other hand if he tried to bench 400 he would crush himself when the weight came down to his chest. Benching is great because people other than powerlifters can understand how heavy a big bench really is.[/quote]
in my experience, back when i lifted heavy, and someone asked me what i benched. i told them best raw competition bench was 565lbs. the next thing out of their mouth was 1 of 2 things.
1. i know a guy that can rep 600
2. i used to be 220 cut benching 405 until i hurt my shoulder
i had a pretty good bench but hated tellin ppl about for those 2 reasons. so benchmay not be the most boring, but its my most hated lift. theres nothing like squatting til you bleed or just getting so pumped up and rippin some heavy weight off the floor.
I like em all so I will not vote. I don't like the elevated figures obtained by gear in the squat and bench. I enjoy benching more now that I've learned leg drive.
This thread as well as the "remove squats" thread are by far the most ridiculous banter I have heard in 26 years of powerlifting!
I'd rather watch and listen to Hitler.
Nine times out of ten,when someone asks you what your lifts are,they say,Whats your bench? Honestly,when was the last time someone came up to you,that was not a powerlifter,and said,hey bro,How much is your squat? Sure,your not going to like to bench press,if your week in your upper body.Benchpress,the true test of upper body strength!
I like doing bench presses but have difficulty pushing it evenly. What I don't like about bench presses is having them turned down for this reason. All that should matter is that you got it up after a pause at your chest, and lock it out. Believe me, it's no easier pushing it unevely. I see the bar uneven with squats and deadlifts and nothing is said. What's the difference? All constructive comments welcome. Ronald W. Jeffery
I got a question. How come you have to pause a bench, lockout and hold a deadlift, but a squat you can drop the bottom out if you want to and rebound off the bottom.
How come there's not a pause in the squat?
I like the squat and deadlift equally because they used the majority of your muscles in your body. The bench is so popular because it is the easiest of the three lifts. All you have to do is lay on a bench and lift the weight up and down. If someone ask how much you bench, you have to explain the bench press with a pause,competition style, or equip, single ply or multi ply, or the regular gym press. The squat and deadlift is way more practical for everyday life and plus in sports, You know if a guy has a big deadlift, he is a badass in most sports. If he is in shape and can deadlift a lot of weight like 700 pound plus, he is probably has a fast running time, a great vertical jump, an awesome grip, and probably punch hard as hell. like they say biceps is to bodybuilding, as strong backs is to athletes. How many guys you see in the gym working out with 275 or 315 with a few reps, how about go deadlift 405 X 20 reps, or squat over 500 pounds for reps to get some attention. Seems like most gyms, most people are drones doing the same bench routine, yelling and screaming. Why worry about 365 - 405 pound bench, when you can pull 600 pounds off the floor! Powerlifters love moving heavy ass weight ! give me the squat and deadlift!
[quote=Anonymous] I like the squat and deadlift equally because they used the majority of your muscles in your body. The bench is so popular because it is the easiest of the three lifts. All you have to do is lay on a bench and lift the weight up and down. If someone ask how much you bench, you have to explain the bench press with a pause,competition style, or equip, single ply or multi ply, or the regular gym press. The squat and deadlift is way more practical for everyday life and plus in sports, You know if a guy has a big deadlift, he is a badass in most sports. If he is in shape and can deadlift a lot of weight like 700 pound plus, he is probably has a fast running time, a great vertical jump, an awesome grip, and probably punch hard as hell. like they say biceps is to bodybuilding, as strong backs is to athletes. How many guys you see in the gym working out with 275 or 315 with a few reps, how about go deadlift 405 X 20 reps, or squat over 500 pounds for reps to get some attention. Seems like most gyms, most people are drones doing the same bench routine, yelling and screaming. Why worry about 365 - 405 pound bench, when you can pull 600 pounds off the floor! Powerlifters love moving heavy ass weight ! give me the squat and deadlift![/quote]
punching? jumping? running? WHAT? this is POWERLIFTING! NOT OTHER SPORTS!
If you are a powerlifter you recognize this question as weak crap. Powerlifters like all gym lifts (tri kick backs excluded), especially when the lift makes the nose bleed (alot). Relative to powerlifting, I like all three equally, I am just better at the deadlift.
Clean and Jerks, I hate them that's why I powerlift and not oly lift. oops wrong answer.
You love what you do best and if you suck at a lift you hate it. Plain and simple. If you can't bench you will never love it and call people who can bench, bench specialist or bench fags. Then if you can bench but can't squat you won't like squats and so on. Same goes for deadlifts. So let's deal with the fact this is powerlifting and get on with it. Who cares if you hate a certain lift? If you're no good at it train it better and you might like it instead insult those who do.
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