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NASA sympathizers have started a new forum which is purported to counter the views expressed here at Powerlifting Watch. The first post at the new forum implies the Top Hogs may be racists and questions whether they left NASA because of that racism.

Here's the post:

Were sore losers racist?

I recently read on several different internet forums where a team of lifters were sore losers and left their federation when their egos were bruised.

I just got my copy of Powerlifting USA and I see that except for one of their team that placed higher in the curl(by the way curls are for girls) and one who placed higher in the total, almost their entire team was beat by 2 black lifters.

I have read that they left their federation for this reason, or for that reason. But does anybody think they might just be a bunch of Southern racists who couldn't stand to be beat by a couple of Brothrs?

Here's the charter of the new forum:

Our forum is intended for both tested and non-tested lifters. Unlike another forum on the internet forum which claims to "watch" the powerlifting scene, and then deletes the opinions and views that don't line up with the views of its moderator, threads on our forum will not have dissenting views deleted. Instead, if a thread attacks a person(or their family) in a manner that has no connection to powerlifting, that entire thread may be deleted. In no case, however, will portions of a thread be deleted to edit popular opinion to make it look like opinion is headed in one direction or another. People may use their real names, or troll names, but in no case should you assume that a statement made by a person on our forum is really coming from that person. The administrators and moderators of our forum are not responsible for the content posted on our forum, and nobody under the age of 18 is allowed to enter our forum. Everything posted on our forum should be taken with a grain of salt, and no cause of action may lie based upon the content therein. Before the village idiots even start, you should know that you cannot successfully sue for libel unless you can prove that your livelihood was damaged by the person making a post, if you can even prove who they were. We do not have responsibility for the posts that people make, PERIOD.


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I think its assanign to make such disrespectful remarks! It shines more of a light on the posters character for even thinking that could be a reason, than it does on the lifters of the top hogs.

I guess it's only their other forum that they will delete dissenting views and ban non party wagon posters. NASA is sinking fast, it's presenting itself as a garbage federation with lunatic's at the helm. Well, it's sad but it does seem there will be one less federation in the mix soon enough, and that's too bad.

Well, it's interesting that the alleged racists have black team members and are sponsored by and happily support BMF Sports, which is a minority owned and operated company.

Mr. Nash is right in that NASA is sinking fast. This is all really pathetic.

Despicable stuff. Not particularly surprised that it has to do with NASA.

Unless there is proof that this comes from NASA then I think it's kind of silly to post this here. Must be a slow news day. Now if it is linked to NASA, or anyone on their executive committee than it is definitely news.

I just checked the nasa link site and no proof that this forum is part of nasa:
http://www.nasa-sports.com/Links.htm

Big friggin deal.......

SO let me get this straight

NASA is Natural Association Strength Athlete ?

Yet they allow HRT or better know juicer ! for a few select and then to top it off they go public with a big shing ding about so bad ass drug testing for the up and coming meet of all meets that will give away 18 BILLION dollars . ONLY TO HAVE NO DRUG TESTING AT ALL? Can you say fraud and total rip off!

Now we have a group of illiterates stepping out on NASA, (damn and these guys are the cream of the crop?).

So now they go to all the forums pissin and moaning about what a dirty stinkin rotten smelly bastards that are NASA.

Yet where were these goons when Prick peters was spreading lies and cons and slandering anyone and everyone that called him out? These same goofballs were right there, right behind Pricks fat ass and throwing stones at many good guys.

So now we have these same red neck bumkins on the side catching the same stones that they were throwing!

The whole lot of the rats make me sick and they all deserve each other... talk shit about everyone else and then crying like little bitches. What a bunch of winners!

DO all of us a favor and stop already. NASA was nothing NASA is nothing and NASA will never be nothing.

late

Amen!!! moving on...these dirtballs love the attention...let's go another route and let them languish in the bowels of this sport.

Well I know where to go if I want to Troll

Any intelligent lifter knows that in order for a forum to be part of a fed it must be on it's web site!

Where on the web site does it say that it is aligned with NASA? I never saw the Arkansas guys treat anyone, minority or not, with anything but respect.

You can rest assure that the NASA faithful are running the site, as I tried it out and was already censored for defending my faith and the faith of others. I am pretty sure that my ip will be banned soon enough. For all those that have any issues with the NASA organization, hit up that "new" forum and see how fast they shut it down...

Anyone that purports that this is NOT from NASA is either delusional or trying to deflect rightful criticism. Just because the forum mod hides anonymously behind Domains By Proxy out of Scottsdale, AZ, doesn't mask the FACT that this is simply a resurrection of the old NASA-hate forum from a year or so ago.

The style and language are the same as past NASA forums. Doesn't that garbage belong on Outlaws, along with Tommy's eye chart for judges?

I'm not sure why this is allowed to be going on???Why can't we all just move on....Their not racists, they have an african american guy on their team named Ricco Brown, an All-American football player in Division I...And they truly love the guy...He's gonna be a powerhouse for the Hogs soon (I've seen him deadlift on youtube)..If their racist I'm sure they wouldn't embrace the people, they supposedly hate.. As far as the Hogs being beat, that depends on how you interpreting being beat...I remember my first meet where I benched 320, 550, 500, another dude benched 405 and smoked me on the bench, but his squat was 385 and deadlift the same. Due to the totals, I won....Due to totals, and if you look at NASA's coefficient, The Hog's were top four out of five I believe, with a first place winner...It has come to my attention that some are only going to acknowledge the bench and then say, "I've won".. They are not going to look at or acknowledge the other two lifts and the total...It's their God given right to make that interpretation...But as far as my opinion, and I'm sure many others, the total is what we go off of when we are intrepreting winning or losing...The way this competition was set up was that people would get money even if they did a bench only meet, and they indeed had a few outstanding benchers... The picture on PL USA, shows only the bench press victors... Hell, if you only curled, you got money...Being objective, and disregarding the testing issue or the way some of us were treated, it was a pretty generous way to give money...

This, from the NASA-WI forum (top, right):
http://members.boardhost.com/WIastheKiloGoes/index.html?1170877632

Time of Gravity May 10, 2008, 4:49 pm

This, from the new NASA-hate forum (top, right):
http://members.boardhost.com/PLTRUTHUNEDITED/

The Time of Truth is: May 10, 2008, 4:50 pm

Bishop Job, you are so transparent....

I am just wondering how many more ways are they going to come up with to run down the same old thing. Better yet how long are they going to keep beating them down. This is some funny stuff. Jesse

hahahahaha this is completely weetahdud

small is a state of mind

Gallerite Warrior wrote:
Well I know where to go if I want to Troll

TFF !....lol

wow i like a good troll board as much as the next guy, but this nasa board is truly dispicable. do they know how bad this makes them look? do they care?

The Hogs got beat by two black lifters on the platform. This doesn't seem like racisim, but the better lifters won.

Is it just me? The color combination of that forum hurts the eyes after a few minutes. The goofy red and green. It's hard to keep looking at the posts/threads. In a way, I guess that's good. There was nothing of substance there worth reading.

This race stuff is a joke. Anyone thats seen the Hogs lift know its not true. Rico Brown is not the only close friend and African American lifter on the hogs. But I shouldnt have to defend this position to any race baiters. Rich you need to get that guy under control like you have had to be in the past. Jim Ray -very perceptive. And also keep in mind that we aren't sore losers but sore Winners. Took the correct stand with no regrets.

People's Champ one day I hope to be as smart as you but I don't think that day will ever come. Dont think we ever threw any stones at you. Who would want to do that with your sunny disposition?
The Hogs basically lifted and kept off these other forums until we were banned from our old one. Could it be that you aren't happy about all the interest these threads get? Anyway got to go feed the chickens and get ready for the hot date I have with my first cousin. Going to the drive-in, gonna see Smokey and the Bandit for the 100th time.

Jeff Phillips wrote:
Rich you need to get that guy under control like you have had to be in the past. Jim Ray -very perceptive.

I always knew you were a genius, LOL.

Jeff Phillips wrote:
got to go feed the chickens and get ready for the hot date I have with my first cousin. Going to the drive-in, gonna see Smokey and the Bandit for the 100th time.

I don't care WHO you are, now THAT is some funny stuff!!! Have a Dr. Pepper on me.

white pear, white pear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim Rey, Conclusive proof Job is involved?

Anonymous wrote:
Jim Rey, Conclusive proof Job is involved?

Dude, you read Outlaws so much that you really think that's how my name is spelled, LOL.

I challenge the Oracle to go to Domains By Proxy and take the secrecy away. Let DBP pass along the registrant info to IANA. Prove me wrong, moron.

(This seems as good a place as any to rebut the latest lie from James 'JT' Hall.)

(This, from you-know-who's Training/public forum):

"Jim Ray has been attacking NASA and banned because of verbal abusing (sic) a lifter at a NASA meet."

That, of course, is an outright lie. I have never abused (or even confronted with malice) any lifter at any meet I've attended. I have only had 1 lifter (Brad Eder) ever say anything bad to me, and that's the only, 'bad thing' I've ever seen between ANY lifters, at ANY meet.

To review: I was (mercifully) kicked out of NASA because I had the temerity to publicly rebut (NASA-WI Chair) Job Hou-seye when he lied about my judging skills.

And every day I feel a little more sore as I kick myself at not having left on my own sooner.

Hey folks I can understand the lure of a troll forum, but by even spending time with this piece of junk (the forum cited in this thread) just puts our great sport in a bad light.
Go Heavy and Powerlifting Watch atleast keep things pretty fair, civil and somewhat topical.
MD

Anonymous wrote:
white pear, white pear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuckin' hillarious...lol

As expected, this NASA-hate forum has become nothing but an excoriation of myself and Jesse Israel. Rich Peters (with the help of Job Hou-seye) is simply fulfilling a threat he made to me in Jan. 2007. It's disgusting and pathetic. Try to imagine the amount of hate that would have to be in your heart to obsess on me as (those two) do.

JimRay
Now I bet that is just breaking your heart.
Beer and Pizza is on you,lol.

It's fascinating how Rich accuses everyone that disagrees with him of being sick or mentally ill when his behavior (creating a forum so he can troll unopposed) clearly indicates that he is the real sicko. What a loser and houee souee is just as bad.

rodgersmadmax wrote:
JimRay
Now I bet that is just breaking your heart.
Beer and Pizza is on you,lol.

Actually Jesse, this lunatic fringe has no boundaries to their behavior. They stalk me, lie about me, try to get me fired, plus they know where I live. Even Tommy Fannon (Outlaws mod) understands that there is a line, not to be crossed.

It appears that the new board has been taken down. I wonder if Boardhost took it down. They were definetly crossing the line,

Here's what it says now:

"Our free message board has expired. However, we feel that it proved a point, that it isn't
funny when the shoe is on the other foot. The Home Page of this website will remain, and a new message board will be started, if it becomes apparent that people have not learned their lesson."

crazy now that NASA sees itself as the moral compass for all of the powerlifting world when they don't hold themselves to any concept of reality.

The reality is, several people notified BoardHost that the NASA-hate forum violated the Terms Of Service agreement.

Hate never survives in the light of truth.

I went to that forum once and it was beyond belief. I could picture in my mind two or three of the unemployed idiots typing away all there sick and homo erotic crap while thinking they were really putting folks in their place. Unbelievable! What a fine organization. You showed us Rich and Job. I sure regrete leaving such a classy organazation. Hey why dont you copy all those post and share them with the families,if there are any, at the pizza party in August?

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