Rich Peters: The Hammer Will Fall

Speaking as a somewhat disinterested third party...it seems as if Mr. Peters is a little hyperbolic with some of the verbiage he's using. Phrases like: "the hammer will fall" and "justice will be served"...sound more like opening arguments from a District Attorney that from a Fed pres.

Granted, there's always two sides to every story...my wife and I joined NASA last year because we like the meets that are held in our area and the folks who run them, but neither of us avail ourselves of the NASA forum due to time constraints so we're not privy to any of the scuttlebut.

That being said, maybe I'm just "drama sensitive" but it just seems a bit over-the-top to me...

It seems to me to be a bunch of name calling. I am sure that being the owner of the fed, he can do as he chooses and run the fed however he wants but it is a bit embarassing for those that call NASA home. He is running a business his way, but it doesn't seem to be the best way to handle these situations. Who knows, but I don't see any of the other feds acting like this? Just some thoughts.

the first thing i said to myself is "what is wrong with this guy?" but then i realized that the problem isn't so much with him, but with his membership. i mean what is wrong with these lifters that makes them stay in a for profit federation that they're supporting with their own hard earned money, so they can be bullied and coerced by an egomaniac just for having an opinion?

No excuses! Just lift it!

He must have read the book,"How to lose Friends and Disenchant People"! WOW!

The beauty of Richy Rich being himself is that he has made it obvious for all to see. The sad part of it all is that the blind never do see.

After reading this piece by Peters it is hard to care if he is right or not. He just seems repulsive and someone difficult to like.

When did the space program get involved with power lifting? I probably would have never lifted in their fed anyway because of the space shuttle disaster. I definitely will not now with this babyness.

I have my own Rich Peters story. I joined NASA in 1997, at the behest of Rich. After two meets, during which I finished first and won best lifter in both, Rich told me that I was making other lifters feel uncomfortable because I was a relative unknown and had come "from out of nowhere to win." He asked me to "tone it down." I told him that I didn't know what exactly he meant. He told me that if I didn't follow his "guidance," I would find myself marginalized, in so many words. I walked away and have never lifted in a NASA meet since.

Chris

He is right about one thing...the hammer will fall...problem is though, he won't be the one swinging it.

He is trying to distract the light from himself so badly, that he is willing to post anything and everything. Other members should take note of how easily he is willing to publicize confidential information when he feels the walls coming in on him.

True That. A few years ago when I was having problems with Prick peters we exchanged a few e mails and then some of the content of my private e mails starts showing up on Wisconsin Power Talk posted by Prick peter's Right hand flunkie Job E Bishop.
I read today where the rest of the Hogs have all left nutsa. I can't wait to see what Prick Peters accuses them of.
By the way Job E Bishop, I really do know Christy Canyon.

I stand corrected. It was the DAWGS and not the Hogs. Unlike Double P I admit when I'm wrong.

Peters then wonders aloud why former NASA members are never successful in other organizations. "Do these people not realize that other organizations are watching and reading what they are doing and saying now? Do you think these other organizations want this type person in THEIR organization? These people are simply UNHAPPY people. They relish in being unhappy."

Peters finishes by saying that "NASA is strong and now we are stronger than ever. We have just raised our stock greatly by eliminating the trouble makers and unethical. Unfortunately, some other organization's stock will fall greatly when these outcasts join these other organizations. All I can say to any organization that takes these poor lost souls in is this, THANK YOU!"

I have to agree with Peters on the first part. Former nasa members may not be successful in other organizations because other organizations don't hand out first place trophies just for showing up.
The spin doctor here is in his back handed way trying to get other organizations to do his bidding. Most organizations would be happy to welcome anyone that has left nasa. The thing that Peters can't get though his thick skull is the reason these people are unhappy is because of him and his actions. These are people that have been with nasa 10 years or more. Not a word has been said about them until they decide to leave. Then the coward has to bad mouth them in a desperate bid to make himself the good guy. Even Stevie Wonder can see what Peters is trying to do.
I find it ironic that someone that declared bankruptcy despite having what he claims to be the most successful organization in powerlifting talking about stock value.
Peters claims that Nutsa is stronger than ever. At their last nationals they had less than 200 entries. years ago nasa used to have 300 to 500 LIFTERS at their nationals. The last nasa Nationals had less than 100 LIFTERS. The numbers don't lie but Rich Peters does.

By what it sounds like, I'm sure glad I've never been to one of their meets and wasted my money.

"Mamma always said federations were like a box of chocolates"

Putt Houston.... now with more Bom Chicka Wahwahhhhhh

Aaaaaaaaaand Noooooooowwwww ! Coming to a packed 2 car garage near you. The NASA Strict Barbell Curl Novice Nationals. We will have curls in squat racks and you can change bars between attempts. Act now, to get your tickets and if you call within the next 20 minutes, I'll throw in some integrity and actual film of the 6-7 lifters you'll be lifting with. Act Now !

Peace

T, that's my favorite post of yours, because it makes me jealous. Every day I'm away from NASA, I feel dumber for not having left sooner.

I understand that a few are upset. But really, it's a trickle. We get wrapped up in this forum business, and think that real decisions are made, policy set, and strength gained by voicing our opinions on whatever. But it's really, really not. I feel dumber everytime I get on here to read the venom sprayed by just a few. This isn't powerlifting. It's dirty laundry. It's not the War in Iraq; it's Britney Spears.
And it's just as meaningless.

Well, "Dano", welcome to the forum, as you've never posted under that name before, LOL. Your singular opinion is duly noted. If you don't think that losing the Top Hogs and the Dawgs of KC is significant, wait and see who leaves today. Nice try at spinning the news though.

As this relates to powerlifting, I belonged to a well established powerlifting gym in Massachusetts in the 80's. They were the only game in town, so they called the shots. They failed to see the oncomming sunami of the fitness industry, so their blind arogance and unwillingness to adapt caused the death of their business. I have no experience with NASA, but with all the feds there are now I think this applies. Has anyone read "Who Moved My Cheese"?

I'm really not who you think I am Mr. Ray. I'm an average WV lifter who's been quite conflicted about this whole thing too. By and large, my experience with NASA has been positive. I've even disagreed with the administration publicly. The difference is, I didn't seek support from you and your ilk.
I'm not trying to spin; this thing stinks no matter how you look at it. What I was trying to say, is that the powerlifting internet "community" is populated by those who've acquired a taste for blood. I know that the loss of the top hogs and others is serious. But the only thing that's being accomplished here amounts to slowing down to look at a car crash.
Later.

Far too much Hem and Haw in this sport for sure.

Dano, I'll respond to you and davech (in another thread) together:

If you're the type of lifter that will just lift, do as your told, and stay out of trouble, you can probably have a fine career in NASA. (With apologies to Stephen A. Smith) HowEV-A, if you EVER raise a concern, you WILL BE put back in your place. If you go back in your place, all will be fine. If you don't like being put back in your place, it's ON! You will be labelled a troublemaker and insulted to no end. When you are shown the door or leave, they will lump you in with all of the others that have left before you.

What do you think has happened to all the OTHER Top Hogs? They're ALL bad guys all of a sudden?

WAKE UP PEOPLE

Well davech, I guess that's why they call it, "the future". Good luck with that.

I see Rich is boasting about all the new members he has. Of course he needs new ones - to replace all the old ones that finally saw the light of day! That's how a cult works - the leader is charismatic enough to draw new recruits, but then no dissent is tolerated.

This is just about as true as anything I've read :).

Unlike Dano, I'm not in a region NASA is not part of so to me it's just as bad as being behind some rubberneck ass.

Wow I was gonna do the meet here on Saturday in Niles, Il. Now I don't know.

John, I have only met you a couple of times but I have seen your quotes on the NASA forum and then on Goheavy. I was just wondering how someone that only a few months ago was so happy to be back with NASA would now decide to badmouth it? I do not know the whole story with the hogs and probably never will. I am not picking sides and I have nothing but good things to say about Terry Tucker and Rich Peters. I think that more people need to learn to listen first and speak later.

Robert Vick, do the meet. Dave Oyler is running it, and he is a class guy. Don't worry about all the nonsense. You are a lifter, a good one, just go lift.

JimRay,

I met you in person a couple years ago and you seem to be a genuinely nice guy in person. But every internet posting I read makes you sound like a pompous know-it-all who somehow feels he holds some kind of moral authority to bash folks without concern. Why do people get on here and act so different than they do in person? It's like an old lady driving an SUV. All of a sudden she wants to take on a different personality because she's behind the wheel of a monster, even though she's a sweet old lady at heart.

JJ

Go your own way and as soon as you do you will be called a child molester, a drug user and a sore loser.

Robert, I'm ambivalent about your situation. I would be remiss if I didn't say, 'buyer beware' regarding NASA overall, but on the other hand, Dave Oyler IS as nice a person as you'll EVER meet. He is solid gold inside. As long as you don't EVER go against Rich OR Job, you'll be fine.

davech, that last sentence pertains to you also.

Joshua, sorry but I don't recall the name or the meeting. (OKC? Pickwick?) I just try to give my honest opinion AND put my name beside it. That is something Rich and Job will never have the cajones to do. If (the day we met) someone had said something inflammatory (in the warmup room for instance), I certainly would respond, just as I do online. When I'm wrong, I admit it - again, something Rich and Job are incapable of doing.

I guess you skip over the, 'nice' posts I make.

Jim, are you speaking about Job E Bishop?

Well, I see Rich has calmed down (per his latest missive on the Training Forum). So much for, 'the hammer'. (Rolls eyes) Reminds me of another "Hammer"

Original Hammer

he pulled the same crap with me. He lets his mouth write checks his ass can't cash.
He made all kinds of threats to me. Like all bullies he really is a coward.

M C Hammer? yep, he was sitting on the top of th eworld too, then one day he was flat broke.

Fred Williamson is one of the troll names Prick Peters trolls with.

Did the hammer fall yet?
Typical Prick Peters, long on mouth and short on actions.
What a loser

When will the hammer fall?