NASA To Post Drug Testing Failures

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I'm not going to make a statement here as to wheather I agree or not with publishing test failures. I'll only make a precautionary statement after a discussion I had with my doctor regarding test and how different things can influence a positive test other than steroids. I brought up the fact that some feds publish failed test and he was shocked. He said that he didn't see how any signed form could hold up in court on that breach of privacy. That's one of the things they have top be super cautious of as doctors. I hope Rich has checked with good lawyers before doing this. I don't think it's going to be long before an athlete does challenge this publishing issue in court, and I'm afraid it may cost some fed or federation execs a lot of money when the ruling comes down. They're on pretty thin ice with a standard release form with the present laws on privacy. Like I said; I'm not saying right or wrong...I'm just wondering legal and what would happen in court.

Well, the USAPL has posted ALL results for awhile now, and even Job Hou-Seye did one thing right in WI - he posted the negative tests. (And I'm on it, so I'd better not see MY name on any list Rich has, cuz he's never tested me.)

WI lifters tested negative

unless tucker failed the drug test at their recent meet that started this whole issue i don't see how publishing past test results clears up the issue at all. if tucker failed a test a few years ago but passed this current one it doesn't "explain the terry tucker incident" at all, in fact it would seem to be no more than a thinly veiled attempt to drag someone's name through the mud who's causing them to get some well deserved bad publicity.

DOn't you pretty much waive your rights away when you join the USAPL? If you do drugs don't lift there. Many lifters choose not to because they make their positive test public.

Its amazing to me how drug users in this sport or in life r always trying to blame others when the fact remains don't do drugs at all or least admit that u do them and be a man about the outcomes.

("work") Are you so mad that you got the wrong quotation?

total fucking bullshit. kick the cheats out of the org or whatever, but putting someone's name on a public list can cause family problems, legal issues, work issues, etc. and like someone pointed out before: 'what if the test is wrong'. you could cause a whole lot of damage to someone for something so stupid as a trophy. if my name ever appeared on a 'list', i'd have an attorney at their door in a heartbeat.

this whole incident has reaffirmed my belief that drug testing is a crock of shit, and specifically that the federation involved in this horseshit is crooked as hell. the fed president seems to have a personal vendetta here.

if its smells like dogshit.....

The only reason that they would put up test failures would be to implicate the recent decisions, however if said lifters tested positive at other times and were still allowed to participate in the "family" atmosphere of the organization then isn't this truly an indictment against there testing policies?

I would like to make a response to some of the comments that have been made about me on the training forum.
First of all, in the third e-mail that I sent out I pleaded to please have the "King" get with me so that we could talk before this thing got out of hand. Instead of the King responding, I got the, Puppet, Napoleon Cheesehead. At one o'clock in the morning at that.
Second, I would like to make a response on the drug test issue. I said in the beginning that I, at one time had taken a supplement that would show or sometimes show a false positive and that because of this I had failed a drug test. This was in January of 2003. I have taken many drug tests since, and I have not fail a single one.
Third, if we are looking at the past and instead of the issue at hand, lets look at some of the "King's" past. I will not drag his name trough the mud, there are enough people out there that know the truth about him. So go ahead and make your posts about me if it makes you feel like a bigger man, little man, and here's a word of advice, it would probably be a good idea for you all to invest a little in the cell phone market cause there are two men that are raising that stock up as we speak.
This could have been all over a long time ago if you just would have called me like I requested instead of just talking to the cheese about this issue.
Your ex-lifter,
Terry Tucker

this seems to be the in thing now. there was a post where "100% raw" president admitted to doing this.

I don't think you understand the definition of false positive. A result that is erroneously positive when a situation is normal. Here are a few examples that eliminates your situation:

1. A false positive pregnancy test is when the test says that you are pregnant but actually you are not.

2. Particular test designed to detect cancer of the toe nail is positive but the person does not have toe nail cancer.

3. Most common nasal decongestants can cause a positive reading for Amphetamines because of Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, propylephedrine, phenylephrine, or desoxyephedrine founded in Nyquil, Contact, Sudafed, Allerest, Tavist-D, Dimetapp, etc.

So, don't try to justify your usage of pro hormone/pro steroid as a false positive! You used banned substance and tested positive for it. Also, other drug-tested federations accept other federation drug-failures.

Don't you mean The BISHOP?

Wow, that's before I joined. I've never, ever heard anything said, posted, or even hinted about you using. Plus, you've lifted a zillion times since coming back.

Oh yeah? Over on the Training forum, he blames you, LOL. I've got you down for numbers 2, 5, 6, 7, and 8, LOL.

Can't wait to see, 'the hammer come down'.

1. Always anonymous, aren't you, Rich/Job?

2. A positive 5 years ago, when one has lifted/tested clean since, would be past any, 'statute of limitatiions'.

3. Terry's the kind of guy that will gladly submit to a test if need be, to JOIN another fed. Certainly, he'd expect to be tested at his first meet. Any new lifter with his numbers would.

"this seems to be the in thing now. there was a post where "100% raw" president admitted to doing this."

IIRC that wasn't the same thing at all, Paul Bossi said he cut a guy a break who was nearing the END of a different Fed's suspension and let him lift on the condition that he would be tested at the meet.

Giving someone the benefit of the doubt, and letting them compete if they agree to get tested...Not seeing a problem there.

The guy ended up popping postive, and now he's banned there too.

Hard to see how this ties in with the issue-at-hand though...

Terry Tucker,

First off I want to say that to my knowledge I don't know you by name. We may have met at a nasa meet but we are not close friends or associates. This is not anything against you or myself, just stating that our paths have not met except possibly in passing. Since you have left nasa you have been lumped in with me and Tim Brunner on another forum. Prick Peters is going to that well a few too many times. So trying to use the excuse that Terry was booted because he is a friend of mine isn't going to fly. Terry simply stood his ground and spoke his mind. Banning offenses in the land of Prick Petersburg.

I do have to take exception to one of your pervious statements and tell you that I am extremely offended that you have started referring to Prick Peter as "The King" Mr. Tucker this is an insult to Monarchs around the world. Not to mention insulting the real King. The Great Elvis Presley. In the future please refrain from associating the fine Gentleman from Memphis with the scum bag Prick from Oklahomo.
Likewise the great state of Wisconsin does not have to be dragged through the mud and it's main industry blemished by being associated with Job E Bishop by calling him "The Cheese" A more suitable name for Hand Job might be "Dick Cheese" which has been approved by the American Dairy council.

Hail Caesar
Joe Dentice

Now this is the kind of thing everyone is talking about - talking about people by name and trying to possibly cause them problems. The only ones it should matter to are the ones performing the test and the one getting the test done. By name it should not matter to anyone else.

That's some funny shit, Joe.....hahahahahaha

Horton hears a "Who cares" ?

Yes its been well established in the Supreme Court by stare decisis that when one joins the military or the usapl, they forfeit some of their fundamental constitutional rights, privacy being one of them.

lmao

now I'm dying Carl... LMAO!!!!!