Can The APF Consider Another World Organization?

The APF is a nonprofit organization owned by KK. Though there is a move afoot to oust him, it will be a very hard thing to do. Just because it is nonprofit, doesn't mean it can't be personally owned. The best way to handle the situation is for the APF lifters and officials to leave the organization and go back to the original owner, Ernie Frantz, at the AFPF. Kidder would then a nonprofit organization with NO participants. I doubt the APF would ever consider affiliating with anyone else except the WPC for their world meet. If Gary, Amy or any of the other top dogs decide to leave, there would be nothing left to hold the organization together.

There are many good people lifting and representin the APF right now, but you can't seperate the message from the messenger. The organization is still owned by one person.

Those of you who had the opportunity to lift in the first APF nationals in the early 80's, have only one opportunity to lift in the historical first AFPF nationals April 27, 2008 in Plano, Texas.

http://www.ymcanationals.com

this situation is unlikely, the apf as told by kk was owned Ernie Frantz then purchased from him. Whether kk is the president or not, he still owns it. Seperating it from the WPC would great as it WOULD appear to create more distance from KK and powerlifting, but unfortunately we're asking to take over a federation from it's owner by what? majority hand raises? Very unlikely.

AFPF nationals from the sound of things, now KK jr. is vice president, will only be historical at it's first nationals from lack of participation. From the sound of things, I hope one becomes dominant sooner rather than later. Right now all state meets are and will be dominated by the UPA and APF. The big events though lacking international competition will continue with the IPA Pro-am and now the UPA Pro-am and or/nationals.

Kenny Patterson needs to really contact Louie and create the PRO-AM with louie annually into a mega event instead of one IPA pro-am and another UPA pro-am in the summer. By creating this, UPA participation can grow as a qualifying figure for the pro-am, as state representaion grows, can come and only come via UPA participation.

I'm surprised after all the lack of support and constant personal attack, KK is still at it and looking to do it. It will be interesting to see what happens with the WPC semi's this year in Florida on november, let's give the organizers a HAND for their timing on the dates wow that spelled "thought out."

Les, Les, Les........

What the hell is the deal. You are starting a federation all while bashing the competition. It that the only way you can win.

Tell me what YOU CAN DO, not what everybody else can't. You are like a bad politican who has to win by mudslinging. I only wish to lift in an orginization who puts professionalism at the highest level, this is obviously something you no idea about per your post above. Get your shit straight and think before you post. Why even mention other leagues. TELL ME WHY THIS LEAGE IS GOOD AND I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHY EVERYTHING ELSE IS BAD. I hate to come off as not liking this league but when the upper management post negative things about other leagues, it puts a bad taste in my mouth. Good luck.

I haven't read any of the comments so far, but I do have a question.

If the APF was to break away from the WPC and hold it's own "world" championships, then who exactly would the US lifters be lifting against??

But didn't Ernie invent stuff like canvas squat suits, denim bench shirts, the original bench shirt, not understanding patent law, thinking the finders keepers rule held up in court, high squats passed for lifters who wear his brand and so on? Ernie seems like a nice person but why continue to support the part of the sport that ruined it popularity wise. The Ernies and the Johns came in in the early 80s and mucked the whole thing up. No more TV coverage, no more Sports Illustrated articles and no money for the best lifters beyond a few measely thousand dollar checks shelled out here and there.

the APF is sinking fast enough already...Seperate from the WPC, and yopu put the final nail in the coffin.

Thank KK, its all to do with what he has pulled in the WPO.

To answer the question, no IMO. Legally it is possible, but it is very, very unlikely that it would ever happen as, although they are different organizations, they are very much intertwined.

Eric Stone
APF IL State Chairman

PS--I'm not sure I understand how this qualifys as "news." This was originally an annoynmus quote on a message board. There has been no move by any APF member nor APF board member to do anything of the like.

It's not news. It's an interesting question though. Today's item about the USAPL and the perception by the rank and file of the top lifters isn't news either. Powerlifting Watch is a mixture of news, information, and hot topics of discussion.