The Sling Shot is now for sale!

Submitted by jfaber4801 on July 29, 2010 - 9:02am. » login or register to post comments

what does this help?

Submitted by zane geeting on July 29, 2010 - 9:20am. » login or register to post comments

Mimics the bench shirt. Its a good way to do raw work and speed work while keeping used to the feel of a shirt. It will also allow you to still get in a full range press while overloading the tri's.

Submitted by chris mason on July 29, 2010 - 11:07am. » login or register to post comments

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Good luck Mark! I think you will do very well with this product.

Submitted by eggsurplus on July 29, 2010 - 1:48pm. » login or register to post comments

I'm getting one and putting it under my bench shirt. Still counts as single ply, right?

Seriously though, simple idea which may produce great results.

Submitted by metabolicdoc on July 29, 2010 - 1:57pm. » login or register to post comments

Mark, Brillant!! So simple, but no one ever made it come to life!!! Congrats!! I have seen all video on this, you say can be used with bench shirt. How does that work?? with a shirt? and different types of shirts? e.g., SD phenom? and can you post some video as used with a shirt!! Will this be laughed at... at a meet?? say IPA APA?? I guess, "un-limited gear" category?? Stay strong and healthy Bro...Thanks Tom

Stay Strong and Healthy, Dr O

Submitted by Hank on July 29, 2010 - 2:09pm. » login or register to post comments

Will we see a Borat bathing suit squat slingshot next?

Submitted by Andy Furnas on July 29, 2010 - 2:15pm. » login or register to post comments

So this is similar to bands or chains, in that the load gets heavier as you move through the range of motion, right? More tricep overload, etc.

Is the primary benefit that it's much quicker and easier to set up than those other methods? And more portable?

Andy Furnas

Submitted by alideutscher on July 29, 2010 - 4:51pm. » login or register to post comments

mark you going to be a millionare over night!

congratulations

Mussa Mohkami
Powerlifting Mainz
Germany
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Submitted by ruspa81 on July 29, 2010 - 5:08pm. » login or register to post comments

alideutscher wrote:

mark you going to be a millionare over night!

congratulations

Mussa Mohkami
Powerlifting Mainz
Germany
http://www.alideutscher.de
http://www.youtube.com/alideutscher

Its actually the opposite. I would say its more like reverse band bench as you get less assistance as the bar travels upward. Its helps off the chest but as you get to lockout, its all you. Essentially the same as shirt. You can move more weight off your chest thus overloading your triceps.

Submitted by Ken Ufford on July 29, 2010 - 7:05pm. » login or register to post comments

That is a cool idea. So simple and yet that is doing the same thing as the shirt. Can we just wear that at a meet instead of squeezing into a shirt. It looks way more comfortable. LOL I think it is a great idea. Ken Ufford

Submitted by BIG DADDY on July 29, 2010 - 8:21pm. » login or register to post comments

jfaber4801 wrote:

what does this help?

yep it's great for training without a shirt. i love it great idea.

Submitted by chris mason on July 29, 2010 - 8:34pm. » login or register to post comments

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Ken,

I was thinking the same thing. It looks so much more convenient than a shirt.

Submitted by Job Hou-Seye on July 30, 2010 - 12:50am. » login or register to post comments

You guys are shitting me, right?

It is just a matter of time before somebody with an IQ of around 70, OR LESS, thinks this should be allowed in a Meet...

Submitted by RAW MANA on July 30, 2010 - 12:56am. » login or register to post comments

Does it help raw benchers too?

Submitted by peter on July 30, 2010 - 1:04am. » login or register to post comments

Is this intended for then normal lifter or does someone need to have experience benching and understand the principles associated with a shirt? I never bench in a shirt and was thinking about getting a sling shot but then saw someone this week at Wild Iron broker their arm using this?

I have heard people breaking an arm when shirted and benching heavy weights. But from what I understand he was only attempting 385 using the sling shot when his arm broke. Did something else go wrong? I just want to make sure I know everything before I order.

Thanks

Submitted by Internet Judge on July 30, 2010 - 6:40am. » login or register to post comments

metabolicdoc wrote:

Mark, Brillant!! So simple, but no one ever made it come to life!!! Congrats!! I have seen all video on this, you say can be used with bench shirt. How does that work?? with a shirt? and different types of shirts? e.g., SD phenom? and can you post some video as used with a shirt!! Will this be laughed at... at a meet?? say IPA APA?? I guess, "un-limited gear" category?? Stay strong and healthy Bro...Thanks Tom

Stay Strong and Healthy, Dr O

Actually the guys on Long Island made this already a few years ago. It was one of Chris Rogers's training partners so what Jackass has done is simply stole the idea and patented it.

Submitted by Jim McDonald on July 30, 2010 - 9:47am. » login or register to post comments

peter wrote:

Is this intended for then normal lifter or does someone need to have experience benching and understand the principles associated with a shirt? I never bench in a shirt and was thinking about getting a sling shot but then saw someone this week at Wild Iron broker their arm using this?

I have heard people breaking an arm when shirted and benching heavy weights. But from what I understand he was only attempting 385 using the sling shot when his arm broke. Did something else go wrong? I just want to make sure I know everything before I order.

Thanks

He was using a Sling Shot that was several sizes too small. Anybody can hurt themselves with anything if it's not used properly.

Submitted by Jim McDonald on July 30, 2010 - 11:20am. » login or register to post comments

Internet Judge wrote:

metabolicdoc wrote:

Mark, Brillant!! So simple, but no one ever made it come to life!!! Congrats!! I have seen all video on this, you say can be used with bench shirt. How does that work?? with a shirt? and different types of shirts? e.g., SD phenom? and can you post some video as used with a shirt!! Will this be laughed at... at a meet?? say IPA APA?? I guess, "un-limited gear" category?? Stay strong and healthy Bro...Thanks Tom

Stay Strong and Healthy, Dr O

Actually the guys on Long Island made this already a few years ago. It was one of Chris Rogers's training partners so what Jackass has done is simply stole the idea and patented it.

There might have been similar ideas before but Mark started from scratch with this. The original idea was more like a traditional bench shirt and he went through prototype after prototype to get the product to what it is today. He also invested a chunk of change in the design process and bringing the thing to market. Nobody else has done that.

Submitted by metabolicdoc on July 30, 2010 - 11:54am. » login or register to post comments

Hey Mark, Id love to hear about shirted info??
I will try for sure.
Thanks Tom

Stay Strong and Healthy, Dr O

Submitted by Marcus on July 30, 2010 - 12:25pm. » login or register to post comments

peter wrote:

Is this intended for then normal lifter or does someone need to have experience benching and understand the principles associated with a shirt? I never bench in a shirt and was thinking about getting a sling shot but then saw someone this week at Wild Iron broker their arm using this?

I have heard people breaking an arm when shirted and benching heavy weights. But from what I understand he was only attempting 385 using the sling shot when his arm broke. Did something else go wrong? I just want to make sure I know everything before I order.

Thanks

Mark's wrists weren't wrapped right. Instead of adjusting them, he took them off. I'd wear wrist wraps on any max bench attempt. We are going to keep using the sling shot as a training tool. Last night, people were using it as a 2nd bench movement.

Submitted by BigWade on July 30, 2010 - 12:42pm. » login or register to post comments

Mark had me try one several weeks ago and I have used it weekly for just what you mentioned, a 2nd movement. For me, it's much more of a rehab/pre-hab tool. I'll do my comp bench movement and then follow it up with the sling shot for reps. It has helped my right shoulder/bicep issue from strongman.

I can't see anyone thinking this would be a good idea to use in a meet. I would think the simple answer would be no. It's simply a training tool.

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Submitted by higgs on July 30, 2010 - 1:30pm. » login or register to post comments

I was there and in my opinion, the Sling-Shot had nothing to do with this injury...too small a size or not. This activity we do is inherently dangerous and the threat of injury is ever-present in the gym, particularly when you talk about overloaded movements. Not to mention that Mark Langston is over 40, brand new to max-effort lifting, and has gained strength very rapidly since joining us at Wild Iron. It was just a perfect storm, in my opinion, that led to an unfortunate and shitty situation occuring.

I love the Sling-Shot I have, great as a secondary movement and great if your shoulders are an issue toward the bottom portion of your bench.

Submitted by harrod on July 30, 2010 - 1:34pm. » login or register to post comments

Jim McDonald wrote:

Internet Judge wrote:

metabolicdoc wrote:

Mark, Brillant!! So simple, but no one ever made it come to life!!! Congrats!! I have seen all video on this, you say can be used with bench shirt. How does that work?? with a shirt? and different types of shirts? e.g., SD phenom? and can you post some video as used with a shirt!! Will this be laughed at... at a meet?? say IPA APA?? I guess, "un-limited gear" category?? Stay strong and healthy Bro...Thanks Tom

Stay Strong and Healthy, Dr O

Actually the guys on Long Island made this already a few years ago. It was one of Chris Rogers's training partners so what Jackass has done is simply stole the idea and patented it.

There might have been similar ideas before but Mark started from scratch with this. The original idea was more like a traditional bench shirt and he went through prototype after prototype to get the product to what it is today. He also invested a chunk of change in the design process and bringing the thing to market. Nobody else has done that.

I'm sure a lot of people have thought of this. The difference is Mark did something about it. He has invested huge amounts of time, effort and money in this and will get everything he deserves for it.

As for using it with a shirt, I don't see this as any different than briefs... We already have shirts that stop a 1000 lbs so what does it matter?

Submitted by Sean Katterle on July 30, 2010 - 2:04pm. » login or register to post comments

I like Mark and I'm a fan of his publication and his funny-but-informative training videos. That being said, what's the difference between the sling shot and just wearing a pair of high quality elbow sleeves and benching with reverse bands in the power rack? The pulling feeling of the band across your chest? The direct pulling on your elbows by the band, forcing them back closer together?

If there's a gym out there that won't let someone hang bands from their power rack, then this would be a good alternative (dunno if anyone's being restricted at their gym like that, but I would change gyms if the managers were that uptight.)

Is there a force training factor involved that differs from the reverse band in the power rack bench variation?

Does the Slingshot take more pressure off the shoulders than reverse bands would (at the bottom of the lift)?

I'm expecting people to start putting this device or something simliar underneath their bench shirts. I've been waiting for that to happen for awhile now (if it hasn't already.) That will lead to hours of additional, entertaining debate over who looks like they had something under their shirt or not. It will also continue the trend of increasing your bench without actually increasing your raw bench. This will allow more sub elite benchers to join the ranks of the greats on paper. Thankfully, raw lifting will still exist and hopefully be thriving more than ever. The shirt + slingshot combo "benchers" can avoid those contests and claim a lack of interest as their reason, ha!

Internet Judge wrote:

Actually the guys on Long Island made this already a few years ago. It was one of Chris Rogers's training partners so what Jackass has done is simply stole the idea and patented it.

I dunno if that's true, but maybe you should look into the history of the bench shirt too then if you're concerned about companies that do/did that? LOL

Submitted by Sean Katterle on July 30, 2010 - 2:06pm. » login or register to post comments

BigWade wrote:

Mark had me try one several weeks ago and I have used it weekly for just what you mentioned, a 2nd movement. For me, it's much more of a rehab/pre-hab tool. I'll do my comp bench movement and then follow it up with the sling shot for reps. It has helped my right shoulder/bicep issue from strongman.

That sounds like a cool use of this new product.

Submitted by Huey Daigle on July 30, 2010 - 2:23pm. » login or register to post comments

Katterle,
You are an ass. Let it go. Pushing raw lifting on everyone all the time is annoying. I never hear geared lifters pushing gear on Raw lifters. EVER!! You holier than thou raw lifting guys are the only reason that this discussion continues over and over again. I respect raw lifters in general and Eric in particular for the strides that he has made for the sport, but you Sean, are a grade A DOUCHEBAG!
Huey Daigle

Submitted by Sean Katterle on July 30, 2010 - 2:31pm. » login or register to post comments

Huey Daigle wrote:

Katterle,
You are an ass. Let it go. Pushing raw lifting on everyone all the time is annoying. I never hear geared lifters pushing gear on Raw lifters. EVER!! You holier than thou raw lifting guys are the only reason that this discussion continues over and over again. I respect raw lifters in general and Eric in particular for the strides that he has made for the sport, but you Sean, are a grade A DOUCHEBAG!
Huey Daigle

I'm not gonna participate in a name calling contest on this forum. I told Talmant that I'd stick to the issues and topics of powerlifting.

Best of health,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

Submitted by Brad Cikana on July 30, 2010 - 2:40pm. » login or register to post comments

Sean Katterle wrote:

I like Mark and I'm a fan of his publication and his funny-but-informative training videos. That being said, what's the difference between the sling shot and just wearing a pair of high quality elbow sleeves and benching with reverse bands in the power rack? The pulling feeling of the band across your chest? The direct pulling on your elbows by the band, forcing them back closer together?

If there's a gym out there that won't let someone hang bands from their power rack, then this would be a good alternative (dunno if anyone's being restricted at their gym like that, but I would change gyms if the managers were that uptight.)

Is there a force training factor involved that differs from the reverse band in the power rack bench variation?

Does the Slingshot take more pressure off the shoulders than reverse bands would (at the bottom of the lift)?

I'm expecting people to start putting this device or something simliar underneath their bench shirts. I've been waiting for that to happen for awhile now (if it hasn't already.) That will lead to hours of additional, entertaining debate over who looks like they had something under their shirt or not. It will also continue the trend of increasing your bench without actually increasing your raw bench. This will allow more sub elite benchers to join the ranks of the greats on paper. Thankfully, raw lifting will still exist and hopefully be thriving more than ever. The shirt + slingshot combo "benchers" can avoid those contests and claim a lack of interest as their reason, ha!

Internet Judge wrote:

Actually the guys on Long Island made this already a few years ago. It was one of Chris Rogers's training partners so what Jackass has done is simply stole the idea and patented it.

I dunno if that's true, but maybe you should look into the history of the bench shirt too then if you're concerned about companies that do/did that? LOL

It would be physically impossible to put the slingshot on under a bench shirt.

Submitted by Ken Ufford on July 30, 2010 - 2:54pm. » login or register to post comments

Hey Job-Hou Seye I was actually teasing that is why I put the LOL on there. With that being said when I started lifitng in meets back in 1980 if some one would have come up to us at the USPF meet and described what would become the bench shirts of today we would have had the same response as you did. But look time changes things. I like lifitng raw the best that is how I started out in the sport. I have adjusted and lifted with single and multiply feds and it is a blast. I still in my opinion think raw is a lot of fun. It just is funny how a new idea like this is said to be crazy for meets but the radical bench shirts we all use are okay. Now again I am not saying we should all use SLING SHOTS at meets but I am just saying you never know in this sport time has already showed me that in the past 31 years. I would never say never it could suprise you. But again I am not advising to do this now at meets Geesh LOL Ken Ufford

Submitted by Rob Luyando on July 30, 2010 - 6:06pm. » login or register to post comments

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Sean and any other gear haters.......

As you all know I am a gear junky. I can also hold my own raw I recall Sean saying I was good for 500. I have been using the Sling Shot for a few months now. It is a great training tool. Normally when I take my shirt off my shoulders are fried and I can't do any assistance work due to shoulder issues. With the Sling Shot in my gym bag I can do extra work after my shirt work is complete. The Sling Shot doesn't perform like a shirt. It forces you to keep your form tight and give just enough shoulder support to push it the extra mile. Since using the Sling Shot my shoulder issues are reduced and my shirted strength and raw strength have increased. Hell I am even considering doing a 600 plus raw competition bench in the near future.

Submitted by Sean Katterle on July 30, 2010 - 6:35pm. » login or register to post comments

Rob Luyando wrote:

I can also hold my own raw I recall Sean saying I was good for 500. I have been using the Sling Shot for a few months now. It is a great training tool. Normally when I take my shirt off my shoulders are fried and I can't do any assistance work due to shoulder issues. With the Sling Shot in my gym bag I can do extra work after my shirt work is complete. The Sling Shot doesn't perform like a shirt. It forces you to keep your form tight and give just enough shoulder support to push it the extra mile. Since using the Sling Shot my shoulder issues are reduced and my shirted strength and raw strength have increased. Hell I am even considering doing a 600 plus raw competition bench in the near future.

Rob,

That's cool that the Slingshot's working for you.

The ?s I posted in this thread above were sincere.

What's the difference between the sling shot and just wearing a pair of high quality elbow sleeves and benching with reverse bands in the power rack? The pulling feeling of the band across your chest? The direct pulling on your elbows by the band, forcing them back closer together?

Is there a force training factor involved that differs from the reverse band in the power rack bench variation?

Does the Slingshot take more pressure off the shoulders than reverse bands would (at the bottom of the lift)?

Good luck with your training and if you ever do decide to go for (and get) that 600 pound raw contest bench I'd like to conduct an interview with you on your training cycle leading up to that barrier breaking bench. I'm confident that I could get that interview published in a major bodybuilding magazine.

Stay Strong,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

Submitted by Rob Luyando on July 30, 2010 - 7:11pm. » login or register to post comments

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elbow sleeves do not give you any shoulder support. The Sling Shot does.

Reverse band is a deload movement at the bottom of the lift and true weight at the top of the lift. But again no shoulder support.

When benching with the sling shot I don't notice the band stretchin across my chest. It takes my shoulder pain away and allows me to get the extra work I need in.

Jeremy Hornstra and I have been talking. And have some cool plans in the future. We both have our own specific goals to reach. We just made a deal that we will seal at the Olympia. Crazy is all I will say for now.

Submitted by Sean Katterle on July 30, 2010 - 7:13pm. » login or register to post comments

Rob Luyando wrote:

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elbow sleeves do not give you any shoulder support. The Sling Shot does.

Reverse band is a deload movement at the bottom of the lift and true weight at the top of the lift. But again no shoulder support.

When benching with the sling shot I don't notice the band stretchin across my chest. It takes my shoulder pain away and allows me to get the extra work I need in.

Jeremy Hornstra and I have been talking. And have some cool plans in the future. We both have our own specific goals to reach. We just made a deal that we will seal at the Olympia. Crazy is all I will say for now.

All of the above sounds great!

Thanks for your input and for replying to my questions.