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Unofficial WPC Worlds Results

(updated 11/24)

Unofficial reports are coming in from the WPC Powerlifting and Bench Press World Championships which took place November 17-22 in Bournemouth, Great Britain.

Russian Andrey Belyeav was named the meet's best lifter. France's Richard Ligier was named best bencher.

The team victory went to Great Britain. Russia placed second with Egypt taking third.

Partial & Unofficial Open Powerlifting Results
Women
105
Leslie Watson (GBR)

114
Gina Iaquaniello (GBR)

123
Emma Weston (GBR)

132
Kristine Grigorjeva (GBR)

148
None

165
Kelly Martin (USA)
Janine Murphy (GBR)

181
1. Krista Ford (USA)
2. Tara Mckay (GBR)

198
1. Hanne Bingle (GBR)

Shw
None

Men
132
None

148
Gerry McNamara (IRE)
Abd Elaziz Elkomy (EGY)

165
1. Ilya Kokorev (RUS) - 1,884lb(855kg)
2.
3. Vasily Tsvetkov (RUS) - 320/187.5/270 - 1,714lb(777.5kg)

181
1. Lee Cutler (GBR) - 320/210/302.5 - 1,835lb(832.5kg)
2. Steve Lonke (BEL) - 340// -
Ian Humphries (GBR) -

198
1. Chris Jenkins (GBR) - 370/235/325 - 2,050lb(930kg)
Neil Deighton (GBR) - ?/290/290 -

220
1. Andrey Belyaev (RUS) - 925(420kg)/639(290kg)/771(350kg) - 2,336lb(1,060kg)
2. Martin Brown (GBR) - 380/242.5/320 - 942.5kg

242
1. Craig Coombes (GBR) - 425/300/310 - 2,281lb(1,035kg)

275
1. Vadim Bratanov (RUS) - 410/280/345 - 2,281lb(1,035kg)
2.
3.
4.
5. Alexander Lebedev (RUS) - 340/275/270 - 885kg

308
1. Jim Nuttal (GBR) - 395/340/320 - 2,325lb(1,055kg)
2. Lloyd Strang (GBR) - 405/285/310 - 1,000kg

Shw
1. Ahmed Hassanin (EGY)
2. Philippe Crets (BEL) - 2,215lb(1,005kg)
3. Dave Fitzhenry (IRE) - 970kg

Partial & Unofficial Open Bench Press Results
Women
105
Leslie Watson (GBR)

114
Gina Iaquaniello (GBR)

123
1. Mari Asp (USA)

132
None

148
Anne Heikkila (FIN)

165
Joanne Mitchell (AUS)

181
1. Emma James (GBR) - 380lb(172.5kg)

198
1. Victoria Sheludko (RUS) - 440lb(200kg)
2. Hanne Bingle (GBR)

Shw
None

Men
123
1. Alijan Eschanov (RUS) - 165lb(75kg)

148
Reno Karkuschk (GER)

165
Ilya Kokorev (RUS)
Vincent Eldin (FRA)

181
1. Evgeny Rusakov (RUS) - 518lb(235kg)

198
1. Evgeny Nechaev (RUS) - 690lb(313kg)

220
1. Andrey Paley (RUS) - 672lb(305kg)

242
1. Aleksandr Tretyakov - 722lb(327.5kg)
2. Dmitry Gorbachev - 716lb(325kg)

275
1. Aleksey Neklyudov (RUS) - 705lb(320kg)
2. Nikolay Pyshmintsev (RUS) - 688lb(312.5kg)
Dmitry Permyakov (RUS) - 666lb(302.5kg)
Alexander Lebedev (RUS) - 606lb(275kg)

308
1. Richard Ligier (FRA) - 881lb(400kg)
2. Vladimir Maximov (RUS) - 837lb(380kg)
3.
4. Irakliy Kondzhariya (RUS) - 716lb(325kg)

Shw
1. Kari Kalliola (FIN) - 859lb(390kg)
2. Aleksey Brazhkin (RUS) - 666lb(302.5kg)

Bombs
Stephanie Van de Weghe (USA)
Steve Plunkett (198)
Justin Hurley (198)
Gareth Davies (198)
Mark Cullimore (220)
Matt Minuth (242)
Dan Dvorak (275)
Martin Kosner (275)
Al Meehan (275)
Ano Turtiainen (308)
Greg Theriot (308)
Scot Mendelson (shw)
John Ewing (shw)
Kieran Kidder (shw)


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Good to see Stephanie and Kelly kicking butt...... any word on what everyone's #'s were?

Now with more " shut up and lift"

Fattest Illinois Lifter wrote:
Good to see Stephanie and Kelly kicking butt...... any word on what everyone's #'s were?

Now with more " shut up and lift"

There is no word on how either did yet.

Awesome lifting!

is there any website with results or live updates?

Cant wait for sundays results to see how Scot Mendelson did. Good luck scot

K.Tawzer wrote:
Cant wait for sundays results to see how Scot Mendelson did. Good luck scot

We have to wait. Whether we like it or not.
Didn't know he was competing? You know what he plans to open with?

Scott just turned up unannounced been standing next to him all day
belyaev slung the bar off his back twice today and got told off

Know i dont know what he is going to open up with.Some of the guys at the WPF and i were talkng about Scot( all good stuff).And were wondering the same thing.

Andrey Beljaev 420/290/350.

ugh if only Feako would have went over. I weant to hear about the 275's. I want to find out about Gregg Damminga to. Tomorrow i assume.

that should freak Freako. Shawn Frankl that is.

got at least 5 or 6 american heavyweights turned up at my hotel who are now lifting but were not on the roster dunno who they are

Belyaew"s 370 deadlift was wery easy.
unfortunatly he can't fix it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tjUTPTHz5I

and i dream to see his 3rd attempt on 450kg squat

well done Chris Jenkins! World Champ 198! Best way to silence the critics!

Anonymous wrote:
ugh if only Feako would have went over. I weant to hear about the 275's. I want to find out about Gregg Damminga to. Tomorrow i assume.

Gregg is fighting a few injuries, so didn't have his best day, but did have a nice bench PR. He went 771/562/683 for the day and lifted unopposed in his division.

Well Done Chris Jenkins, finally World Champion(Senior Open). Does anybody know the breakdown?

I believe Steph bombed out in the Bench.

Debbie Damminga wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
ugh if only Feako would have went over. I weant to hear about the 275's. I want to find out about Gregg Damminga to. Tomorrow i assume.

Gregg is fighting a few injuries, so didn't have his best day, but did have a nice bench PR. He went 771/562/683 for the day and lifted unopposed in his division.


Congratulations Gregg!

Debbie Damminga wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
ugh if only Feako would have went over. I weant to hear about the 275's. I want to find out about Gregg Damminga to. Tomorrow i assume.

Gregg is fighting a few injuries, so didn't have his best day, but did have a nice bench PR. He went 771/562/683 for the day and lifted unopposed in his division.

Debbie, thanks for posting. Please pass my congratulations to Greg, and let him know we wish him a speedy recovery.

mikem csd
apf12766/wpc441

Nick Zhukov wrote:
Belyaew"s 370 deadlift was wery easy.
unfortunatly he can't fix it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tjUTPTHz5I

and i dream to see his 3rd attempt on 450kg squat

Bullshit was it hell. The Russian ref gave him a white and he didnt even lock it out. Andrey Belyaev is a strong lifter no doubt, He couldnt even stand up with 440kg he threw it off his back. I doubt that if Frankl had showed up he would of had a problem in dispatching of Andrey, Shawn would have needed 420kg max his usual bench and 340kg deadlift min. Lucky for Andrey he didnt go, Michael Cartinian would have been neck and neck also. What I have written is fact, you Russians that sat on the platform cheated and I will post the videos as proof ok.

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Congrats on the BP PR and the win Gregg! Slow down and heal up! See you in May!

Thanks Mike, Beverly and Buddy. We really enjoyed this meet, it was a huge production done well. Both of our lifting days went pretty well and the facilities were wonderful. It was announced today that next year WPC Worlds will be in Finland. We both plan to lift there as well.

you can add to the bombers lol me , kieren kidder, Ano, scott mendelson, Dan Dvorak, martin kosner and we aint very happy bunnies either

you can add to the bombers lol me , kieren kidder, Ano, scott mendelson, Dan Dvorak, martin kosner and we aint very happy bunnies either

me being alan collins and the first time in 48 years i ever bombed !!!!!!

Alan Collins wrote:
you can add to the bombers lol me , kieren kidder, Ano, scott mendelson, Dan Dvorak, martin kosner and we aint very happy bunnies either

me being alan collins and the first time in 48 years i ever bombed !!!!!!

Scot Mendelson flew all the way to the UK to bomb out? I never saw a press release that he was even planning on benching. Props to him for sticking his neck out there at a show that wasn't a hometown white light fest (some of the other multi ply lifters should take note of that) but that's gotta sting to invest that kinda $$$ on airfare, hotels, ect. for nada.

Hope he at least got some good sight seeing in while he was there.

Stay Strong,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

Sean Katterle wrote:
Alan Collins wrote:
you can add to the bombers lol me , kieren kidder, Ano, scott mendelson, Dan Dvorak, martin kosner and we aint very happy bunnies either

me being alan collins and the first time in 48 years i ever bombed !!!!!!

Scot Mendelson flew all the way to the UK to bomb out? I never saw a press release that he was even planning on benching. Props to him for sticking his neck out there at a show that wasn't a hometown white light fest (some of the other multi ply lifters should take note of that) but that's gotta sting to invest that kinda $$$ on airfare, hotels, ect. for nada.

Hope he at least got some good sight seeing in while he was there.

Stay Strong,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

Scotts been having a great time from what i saw he was out dinning the night before the meet and only a few minutes before he lifted he was still running around helping others out and still dressed in a t shirt and jeans ! i think he was just here to have fun and enjoy the meet and see all his friends here.

Alan Collins wrote:
Sean Katterle wrote:
Alan Collins wrote:
you can add to the bombers lol me , kieren kidder, Ano, scott mendelson, Dan Dvorak, martin kosner and we aint very happy bunnies either

me being alan collins and the first time in 48 years i ever bombed !!!!!!

Scot Mendelson flew all the way to the UK to bomb out? I never saw a press release that he was even planning on benching. Props to him for sticking his neck out there at a show that wasn't a hometown white light fest (some of the other multi ply lifters should take note of that) but that's gotta sting to invest that kinda $$$ on airfare, hotels, ect. for nada.

Hope he at least got some good sight seeing in while he was there.

Stay Strong,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

Scotts been having a great time from what i saw he was out dinning the night before the meet and only a few minutes before he lifted he was still running around helping others out and still dressed in a t shirt and jeans ! i think he was just here to have fun and enjoy the meet and see all his friends here.

That and a man of his caliber does not play the safe roll. He goes for broke. Opens heavy to get a big bench in because THATS WHAT HE DOES. Settling to go all the way and get a medal is not what he wants.
Lets face it, scott is not your average powerlifter travelling to a world meet. He went all that way to give a big badass bench to the audience and it was there for him. I actually say that as a person who is not Scotts biggest fan but it's obvious that his goals differ from the average powerlifter.

Ger wrote:
Alan Collins wrote:
Sean Katterle wrote:
Alan Collins wrote:
you can add to the bombers lol me , kieren kidder, Ano, scott mendelson, Dan Dvorak, martin kosner and we aint very happy bunnies either

me being alan collins and the first time in 48 years i ever bombed !!!!!!

Scot Mendelson flew all the way to the UK to bomb out? I never saw a press release that he was even planning on benching. Props to him for sticking his neck out there at a show that wasn't a hometown white light fest (some of the other multi ply lifters should take note of that) but that's gotta sting to invest that kinda $$$ on airfare, hotels, ect. for nada.

Hope he at least got some good sight seeing in while he was there.

Stay Strong,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

Scotts been having a great time from what i saw he was out dinning the night before the meet and only a few minutes before he lifted he was still running around helping others out and still dressed in a t shirt and jeans ! i think he was just here to have fun and enjoy the meet and see all his friends here.

That and a man of his caliber does not play the safe roll. He goes for broke. Opens heavy to get a big bench in because THATS WHAT HE DOES. Settling to go all the way and get a medal is not what he wants.
Lets face it, scott is not your average powerlifter travelling to a world meet. He went all that way to give a big badass bench to the audience and it was there for him. I actually say that as a person who is not Scotts biggest fan but it's obvious that his goals differ from the average powerlifter.

Personly i found him to be a true gent and easy to get on with , he was there on day 1 and told me he intended to break a world record, however as the day he lifted came along it seemed to me he was more intent on helping the other american arrivals i cant remember their names but they mentioned training with Garry Franks and they have some very snazy t shirts

Sean Katterle: Scot Mendelson is a class act something that you never can possibly achieve.

220lb, 2nd Place - Martin Brown (GBR) - 380/242.5/320 = 942.5kg total

400kg Squat went up but wasn't allowed as it was apparently racked too soon.

Victoria Sheludko did a 200kg bench press

In the 140s, Jim Nuttal won with 395/340/320 = 1055 (I think) and Lloyd Strang was second with 405/285/310 = 1000.

In the supers, Philippe Crets won with 1005 total (not sure, think it was 395/265/345) and Dave Fitzhenry was second with 970 (again, not sure, possibly via 400/290/280). Both of these guys had bad days at the office and missed some lifts they should have got.

In the supers it ended 1st place Egypt 2nd Belgium 3rd Ireland

Oh right. I must've missed that massive Egyptian dude somehow...

I want to here more about the cheating that went on.I read where the judges were fair to some lifters and cheated for others.Example-russian judges letting russian guys sqt. high and american guys sqt. extra low.If this is true,then I want to know more.JK

Hey Jesse shoot me a mail bud

chrisjenkins330@hotmail.com

It breaks my heart that truly great lifters like Gerry and Belyaev are reduced to competing in this sort of pantomime against the "Saxon Foe".

K.Tawzer wrote:
Sean Katterle: Scot Mendelson is a class act something that you never can possibly achieve.

Class act, legend, icon, phenom, freak, greatest, ect. are all adjectives that are way over used in this sport (at least on the message boards.)

If you really knew Mendy you'd know that he's famous for coming up with awesome insults and stinging commentary. Only a fan who's never really gotten to sit down and converse with him candidly would try and paint him out to be an ambassador of good will, ha! Mendy can crap talk with the best of em and he'll offend people as it suits him.

Stay Strong,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

Sean Katterle wrote:
K.Tawzer wrote:
Sean Katterle: Scot Mendelson is a class act something that you never can possibly achieve.

Class act, legend, icon, phenom, freak, greatest, ect. are all adjectives that are way over used in this sport (at least on the message boards.)

If you really knew Mendy you'd know that he's famous for coming up with awesome insults and stinging commentary. Only a fan who's never really gotten to sit down and converse with him candidly would try and paint him out to be an ambassador of good will, ha! Mendy can crap talk with the best of em and he'll offend people as it suits him.

Stay Strong,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

hmmm.... who else does that sound like......???

the only difference is that Scot actually lifts....

While I've heard a few diva stories about Scot he was polite to me and my team and with the Harley commercial has probably done more to help powerlifting's publicity than any ammount of gear-bashing or forum-complaining ever will....

Fattest Illinois Lifter wrote:
Sean Katterle wrote:
K.Tawzer wrote:
Sean Katterle: Scot Mendelson is a class act something that you never can possibly achieve.

Class act, legend, icon, phenom, freak, greatest, ect. are all adjectives that are way over used in this sport (at least on the message boards.)

If you really knew Mendy you'd know that he's famous for coming up with awesome insults and stinging commentary. Only a fan who's never really gotten to sit down and converse with him candidly would try and paint him out to be an ambassador of good will, ha! Mendy can crap talk with the best of em and he'll offend people as it suits him.

Stay Strong,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

hmmm.... who else does that sound like......???

the only difference is that Scot actually lifts....

While I've heard a few diva stories about Scot he was polite to me and my team and with the Harley commercial has probably done more to help powerlifting's publicity than any ammount of gear-bashing or forum-complaining ever will....

Scot was paid $$$ to be in that Harley commercial.

I don't see Scot Mendelson as a "diva", LOL.

I lift too so I dunno who you're talking about when you refer to a mystery person with a taste for slinging insults.

Scot's a good sh*t talker...........that's not a bad trait to have IMO.

Stay Strong,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

jessekellum wrote:
I want to here more about the cheating that went on.I read where the judges were fair to some lifters and cheated for others.Example-russian judges letting russian guys sqt. high and american guys sqt. extra low.If this is true,then I want to know more.JK

This is very true. Also the UK referees passed high squats done by english lifters. They then red lighted me opener which was clearly parallell if not a little under and said I had to take my next squat down 2 inches lower. I will post the video of my squat later. The squatting bar sucked it was very "wippy". This caused a lot of bombouts by lifters handling around 450 kg. Even one of my fellow swedish lifters felt it and he only squatted around 600lbs.

The judges went around all the time telling everyone that you had 1 minute to start your from the time your name got called. But this didn't apply to the english lifters. When one english lifter in the 125kg should lift and the bar was ready they didn't start the clock until Mike Sweeney gave a judge "thump up" when the english lifter had wrapped his knees. This lifter easily got aleast 1 min more to get ready then evryone else. This meet was a joke and everyone who was a part of it turning out the way it did should be ashamed of themselfs.

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I had the pleasure of having dinner with Garry Frank, Scot, and several other competitors after WPC Worlds last year. We all hung out for about 3 hours until they closed down the restaurant. Scot was one of the funniest and most intertaining people I've ever been around. The life of the party. Great guy in my book!

i have to say that on the Frankl V Belyaev note:

I think some are right. Belyaev may not match up to Frankl just yet within the conditions of multi-ply events. Dont be fooled though, Frankl would NEVER beat belyaev under IPF conditions.

Debbie Damminga wrote:
Thanks Mike, Beverly and Buddy. We really enjoyed this meet, it was a huge production done well. Both of our lifting days went pretty well and the facilities were wonderful. It was announced today that next year WPC Worlds will be in Finland. We both plan to lift there as well.

Hi Debbie. It was lovely to meet you both, hope to see you next year depends if i can get time off. Best wishes Jonnie x( new Randy Houser fan )

Anonymous/Markus Rinse wrote:
jessekellum wrote:
I want to here more about the cheating that went on.I read where the judges were fair to some lifters and cheated for others.Example-russian judges letting russian guys sqt. high and american guys sqt. extra low.If this is true,then I want to know more.JK

This is very true. Also the UK referees passed high squats done by english lifters. They then red lighted me opener which was clearly parallell if not a little under and said I had to take my next squat down 2 inches lower. I will post the video of my squat later. The squatting bar sucked it was very "wippy". This caused a lot of bombouts by lifters handling around 450 kg. Even one of my fellow swedish lifters felt it and he only squatted around 600lbs.

The judges went around all the time telling everyone that you had 1 minute to start your from the time your name got called. But this didn't apply to the english lifters. When one english lifter in the 125kg should lift and the bar was ready they didn't start the clock until Mike Sweeney gave a judge "thump up" when the english lifter had wrapped his knees. This lifter easily got aleast 1 min more to get ready then evryone else. This meet was a joke and everyone who was a part of it turning out the way it did should be ashamed of themselfs.

Quote:But this didn't apply to the english lifters.

Thats a load of crap it was a british lifter who was first caught out by being timed out i know because his one of my lifters !
Secondly the reason you had a nice whipy bar to use was because your Finish mates insisted that the bar we used all week and everyone liked had to be changed over to that old bar for the last two days ! the good bar was mine !

Wich bars were used???

Just got back from Bournemouth. Sorry to see how much bullshit is being written about a fantastic meet!
Judging was strict but fair, don't care what anyone says! (and I know cause I had my 2 first squats turned down because of it).
I say a big thanks and congratulations to Brian and Vanessa Batcheldor for hosting by far one of the better World's yet!

jessekellum wrote:
I want to here more about the cheating that went on.Example-russian judges letting russian guys sqt. high and american guys sqt. extra low.If this is true,then I want to know more.JK

The cold war restarts.......

Didn't Kalliola win the shw bench with 380k? And Ano was blaming the platform for his bombing.

Back from UK. Very nice meet, gratulation to Vanessa and Brian. Me and martin - bomb-out.
1600 km before in the car day before was un happy. Our mistake. Grats to Phillipe to over 1000. Stonehange and Salisbury - good trip around the Bournemouth, nice place and great people.
Thanks..

what about the 110s?????? christ trying to get results from the people who are there is incredible. they are more concerned about cheating and who DIDNT do what.

At this point the judges could have jumped on to the platform with pipes and pulled some sort of Nancy Karrigan move and I wouldn't want to hear about it.... just post the results.....

Now with more " shut up and lift"

Anonymous wrote:
what about the 110s?????? christ trying to get results from the people who are there is incredible. they are more concerned about cheating and who DIDNT do what.

No shit!...I mean it should be a requirement when hosting a worlds to provide live scoring..How hard is that for effin sakes..

Trying to get6 results is like pulling teeth hahaha

Philippe Crets wrote:
Just got back from Bournemouth. Sorry to see how much bullshit is being written about a fantastic meet!
Judging was strict but fair, don't care what anyone says! (and I know cause I had my 2 first squats turned down because of it).
I say a big thanks and congratulations to Brian and Vanessa Batcheldor for hosting by far one of the better World's yet!

I guess we'll have to take your word for it, since the internet is apparently broken again and it's impossible for anyone to post the results. I mean, it's only been a week since the meet started, so I guess it's still early.... I'm sure they'll fix the telegraph lines, saddle up the pony express, and make sure the next steamship has a packet of mail with the results.

Yes, very well run.....

Er.... perhaps except for the part about actually posting the amounts lifted...

Why do my comments posted with my name keep getting deleted? True, I continually yell at SEANZILLA but I post my full name and refrain from excess profanity? I merely try to discourage RAAAAAAAAAAAAW enthusiasts to attend the OTHER big meet. One run by a gentleman and fellow BROTHER in iron. Again, I don't give a crap about the magazine industry, I don't do this for the money, and I respect all types of lifting.I realize that he is a promoter and running down other feds is just part of his idea of buisness, but come on?!!!! I do not speak on behalf on NGBB but I will make a point of begging my training partners and coach to steer clear of this creep. Just a reminder Jon Grove, who was injured and had to token bench still made the trip, because thats the kind of guy he is. He is also the APF ga pres. An evil multiply
guy has enough class to help his cause, and all this turd can due is run everyone else down.
-Michael Martin Wood the 1st-please dont delete

Alan Collins wrote:
Anonymous/Markus Rinse wrote:
jessekellum wrote:
I want to here more about the cheating that went on.I read where the judges were fair to some lifters and cheated for others.Example-russian judges letting russian guys sqt. high and american guys sqt. extra low.If this is true,then I want to know more.JK

This is very true. Also the UK referees passed high squats done by english lifters. They then red lighted me opener which was clearly parallell if not a little under and said I had to take my next squat down 2 inches lower. I will post the video of my squat later. The squatting bar sucked it was very "wippy". This caused a lot of bombouts by lifters handling around 450 kg. Even one of my fellow swedish lifters felt it and he only squatted around 600lbs.

The judges went around all the time telling everyone that you had 1 minute to start your from the time your name got called. But this didn't apply to the english lifters. When one english lifter in the 125kg should lift and the bar was ready they didn't start the clock until Mike Sweeney gave a judge "thump up" when the english lifter had wrapped his knees. This lifter easily got aleast 1 min more to get ready then evryone else. This meet was a joke and everyone who was a part of it turning out the way it did should be ashamed of themselfs.

Quote:But this didn't apply to the english lifters.

Thats a load of crap it was a british lifter who was first caught out by being timed out i know because his one of my lifters !
Secondly the reason you had a nice whipy bar to use was because your Finish mates insisted that the bar we used all week and everyone liked had to be changed over to that old bar for the last two days ! the good bar was mine !

it was an english lifter that easily got another minute to get ready and sweeney gave the thumps up when he was wrapped and ready. he also got to squat a little higher than most other lifters. that is complete bullshit. also the russian guy in the 110kg bench only got white lights on his last bench when he had a good 3 inches left till lockout on his right hand. the judging was very inconsistent depending on what day you lifted and what country you came from. it shouldn't matter if you come from the same country as the judges but it clearly did at this meet. also why have spotter that weigh 70- 80 kg and have never spotted before in their life to spot at a world meet. when I said that people should be ashamed of themselves I'm referring to the bullshit judging that some judges were practicing not the meet director and his helpers as the venue was great.

/markus

Markus share some results?

Anonymous wrote:
Markus share some results?

Well I wasn't all that interested in the results after I bombed out and almost all the big names bombed. Belayev won the 100kg easily and if there would have been a good squatting bar he probably could have gone higher in the squat. But now he was very unstable and dropped the bar twice. Lots of deadlifts were turned down and benches were turned down for small shit and other lifters got clearly bad lifts passed. The people I talked too was mostly dissapointed in the judging and organziation(mostly sunday). A top lifter told me to not judge the WPC worlds based on my experience here because it usually is much better. People who had been there the whole week said that the judging was very inconsistent and I agree. There were lots of complains about one particular judge(I think he was russian) who liked the red button very much.

ALL OFFICIAL RESULTS WILL BE POSTED ON ALL WEBSITES TO STOP ALL THIS PATHETIC BICKERING - TO KEEP HAPPY THE POWERLIFTING FOLLOWERS ALL AROUND THE WORLD THAT SOMEHOW HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT AN EVENT THAT THEY NEVER EVEN ATTENDED !!!!

AMY JACKSON (USA) HAS ALL THE CARDS/SHEETS ETC., AND IS ON HER WAY BACK TO THE USA. WHEN SHE IS AVAILABLE - I WILL OBTAIN ALL RESULTS AND POST THEM ON ALL SITES!!! YOU CAN ALL THEN JUDGE FOR YOURSELVES.

AND TO ERIC ARNOLD (PERSONALLY) - HAVING BEEN AT THE VENUE FROM 6.45 AM TO 11.00 PM PRACTICALLY EVERY DAY - POSTING THE RESULTS FOR PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT ATTEND WAS NOT TOP OF MY PRIORITY LIST!

VANESSA BATCHELDOR
WPC WORLDS 2009

Alan Collins wrote:
Anonymous/Markus Rinse wrote:
jessekellum wrote:
I want to here more about the cheating that went on.I read where the judges were fair to some lifters and cheated for others.Example-russian judges letting russian guys sqt. high and american guys sqt. extra low.If this is true,then I want to know more.JK

This is very true. Also the UK referees passed high squats done by english lifters. They then red lighted me opener which was clearly parallell if not a little under and said I had to take my next squat down 2 inches lower. I will post the video of my squat later. The squatting bar sucked it was very "wippy". This caused a lot of bombouts by lifters handling around 450 kg. Even one of my fellow swedish lifters felt it and he only squatted around 600lbs.

The judges went around all the time telling everyone that you had 1 minute to start your from the time your name got called. But this didn't apply to the english lifters. When one english lifter in the 125kg should lift and the bar was ready they didn't start the clock until Mike Sweeney gave a judge "thump up" when the english lifter had wrapped his knees. This lifter easily got aleast 1 min more to get ready then evryone else. This meet was a joke and everyone who was a part of it turning out the way it did should be ashamed of themselfs.

Quote:But this didn't apply to the english lifters.

Thats a load of crap it was a british lifter who was first caught out by being timed out i know because his one of my lifters !
Secondly the reason you had a nice whipy bar to use was because your Finish mates insisted that the bar we used all week and everyone liked had to be changed over to that old bar for the last two days ! the good bar was mine !

And you can stop spreading lies around the net that you talked to the swedish team about the squatting bar. no one on our team talked to you about that we use the same bar as you had. we didn't talk to you about any accident.

/markus

Anonymous wrote:
Alan Collins wrote:
Anonymous/Markus Rinse wrote:
jessekellum wrote:
I want to here more about the cheating that went on.I read where the judges were fair to some lifters and cheated for others.Example-russian judges letting russian guys sqt. high and american guys sqt. extra low.If this is true,then I want to know more.JK

This is very true. Also the UK referees passed high squats done by english lifters. They then red lighted me opener which was clearly parallell if not a little under and said I had to take my next squat down 2 inches lower. I will post the video of my squat later. The squatting bar sucked it was very "wippy". This caused a lot of bombouts by lifters handling around 450 kg. Even one of my fellow swedish lifters felt it and he only squatted around 600lbs.

The judges went around all the time telling everyone that you had 1 minute to start your from the time your name got called. But this didn't apply to the english lifters. When one english lifter in the 125kg should lift and the bar was ready they didn't start the clock until Mike Sweeney gave a judge "thump up" when the english lifter had wrapped his knees. This lifter easily got aleast 1 min more to get ready then evryone else. This meet was a joke and everyone who was a part of it turning out the way it did should be ashamed of themselfs.

Quote:But this didn't apply to the english lifters.

Thats a load of crap it was a british lifter who was first caught out by being timed out i know because his one of my lifters !
Secondly the reason you had a nice whipy bar to use was because your Finish mates insisted that the bar we used all week and everyone liked had to be changed over to that old bar for the last two days ! the good bar was mine !

it was an english lifter that easily got another minute to get ready and sweeney gave the thumps up when he was wrapped and ready. he also got to squat a little higher than most other lifters. that is complete bullshit. also the russian guy in the 110kg bench only got white lights on his last bench when he had a good 3 inches left till lockout on his right hand. the judging was very inconsistent depending on what day you lifted and what country you came from. it shouldn't matter if you come from the same country as the judges but it clearly did at this meet. also why have spotter that weigh 70- 80 kg and have never spotted before in their life to spot at a world meet. when I said that people should be ashamed of themselves I'm referring to the bullshit judging that some judges were practicing not the meet director and his helpers as the venue was great.

/markus

It wasnt the being called to the platform time out that was in question (that could be due to miss loaded bar or whatever) but the one minute rule to call your next attempt this was the problem as the lifters had to go from one side of the stage around to the table which was the other side , in my lifters case he was stoped by a Slovac lifter and when he did reach the table it was crowded by coaches, tom , dick and harry and he missed getting his call in by the clock.

ps Alan Lucker & Ben Williams also bombed

Anonymous wrote:
Alan Collins wrote:
Anonymous/Markus Rinse wrote:
jessekellum wrote:
I want to here more about the cheating that went on.I read where the judges were fair to some lifters and cheated for others.Example-russian judges letting russian guys sqt. high and american guys sqt. extra low.If this is true,then I want to know more.JK

This is very true. Also the UK referees passed high squats done by english lifters. They then red lighted me opener which was clearly parallell if not a little under and said I had to take my next squat down 2 inches lower. I will post the video of my squat later. The squatting bar sucked it was very "wippy". This caused a lot of bombouts by lifters handling around 450 kg. Even one of my fellow swedish lifters felt it and he only squatted around 600lbs.

The judges went around all the time telling everyone that you had 1 minute to start your from the time your name got called. But this didn't apply to the english lifters. When one english lifter in the 125kg should lift and the bar was ready they didn't start the clock until Mike Sweeney gave a judge "thump up" when the english lifter had wrapped his knees. This lifter easily got aleast 1 min more to get ready then evryone else. This meet was a joke and everyone who was a part of it turning out the way it did should be ashamed of themselfs.

Quote:But this didn't apply to the english lifters.

Thats a load of crap it was a british lifter who was first caught out by being timed out i know because his one of my lifters !
Secondly the reason you had a nice whipy bar to use was because your Finish mates insisted that the bar we used all week and everyone liked had to be changed over to that old bar for the last two days ! the good bar was mine !

And you can stop spreading lies around the net that you talked to the swedish team about the squatting bar. no one on our team talked to you about that we use the same bar as you had. we didn't talk to you about any accident.

/markus

Realy ? i think you better check out your information before speaking ! i spoke to several Swedish & Norwegian lifters and i have the videos !

Alan Collins wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Alan Collins wrote:
Anonymous/Markus Rinse wrote:
jessekellum wrote:
I want to here more about the cheating that went on.I read where the judges were fair to some lifters and cheated for others.Example-russian judges letting russian guys sqt. high and american guys sqt. extra low.If this is true,then I want to know more.JK

This is very true. Also the UK referees passed high squats done by english lifters. They then red lighted me opener which was clearly parallell if not a little under and said I had to take my next squat down 2 inches lower. I will post the video of my squat later. The squatting bar sucked it was very "wippy". This caused a lot of bombouts by lifters handling around 450 kg. Even one of my fellow swedish lifters felt it and he only squatted around 600lbs.

The judges went around all the time telling everyone that you had 1 minute to start your from the time your name got called. But this didn't apply to the english lifters. When one english lifter in the 125kg should lift and the bar was ready they didn't start the clock until Mike Sweeney gave a judge "thump up" when the english lifter had wrapped his knees. This lifter easily got aleast 1 min more to get ready then evryone else. This meet was a joke and everyone who was a part of it turning out the way it did should be ashamed of themselfs.

Quote:But this didn't apply to the english lifters.

Thats a load of crap it was a british lifter who was first caught out by being timed out i know because his one of my lifters !
Secondly the reason you had a nice whipy bar to use was because your Finish mates insisted that the bar we used all week and everyone liked had to be changed over to that old bar for the last two days ! the good bar was mine !

it was an english lifter that easily got another minute to get ready and sweeney gave the thumps up when he was wrapped and ready. he also got to squat a little higher than most other lifters. that is complete bullshit. also the russian guy in the 110kg bench only got white lights on his last bench when he had a good 3 inches left till lockout on his right hand. the judging was very inconsistent depending on what day you lifted and what country you came from. it shouldn't matter if you come from the same country as the judges but it clearly did at this meet. also why have spotter that weigh 70- 80 kg and have never spotted before in their life to spot at a world meet. when I said that people should be ashamed of themselves I'm referring to the bullshit judging that some judges were practicing not the meet director and his helpers as the venue was great.

/markus

It wasnt the being called to the platform time out that was in question (that could be due to miss loaded bar or whatever) but the one minute rule to call your next attempt this was the problem as the lifters had to go from one side of the stage around to the table which was the other side , in my lifters case he was stoped by a Slovac lifter and when he did reach the table it was crowded by coaches, tom , dick and harry and he missed getting his call in by the clock.

ps Alan Lucker & Ben Williams also bombed

people was running around and telling everyone about the time rules whether it be to announce your next attempt or to start your lift in time. In the case I'm talking about the weight was ready but sweeney ran over to see if the lifter was ready and he wasn't so sweeney waited till he was wrapped and ready and then he gave a thumps up to one judge and then they called out his name. I'm not saying that all the english lifters got priviligies but some did and the judging was biased.

and since when shall the head judge judge depth on very close calls?

/markus

Alan Collins wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Alan Collins wrote:
Anonymous/Markus Rinse wrote:
jessekellum wrote:
I want to here more about the cheating that went on.I read where the judges were fair to some lifters and cheated for others.Example-russian judges letting russian guys sqt. high and american guys sqt. extra low.If this is true,then I want to know more.JK

This is very true. Also the UK referees passed high squats done by english lifters. They then red lighted me opener which was clearly parallell if not a little under and said I had to take my next squat down 2 inches lower. I will post the video of my squat later. The squatting bar sucked it was very "wippy". This caused a lot of bombouts by lifters handling around 450 kg. Even one of my fellow swedish lifters felt it and he only squatted around 600lbs.

The judges went around all the time telling everyone that you had 1 minute to start your from the time your name got called. But this didn't apply to the english lifters. When one english lifter in the 125kg should lift and the bar was ready they didn't start the clock until Mike Sweeney gave a judge "thump up" when the english lifter had wrapped his knees. This lifter easily got aleast 1 min more to get ready then evryone else. This meet was a joke and everyone who was a part of it turning out the way it did should be ashamed of themselfs.

Quote:But this didn't apply to the english lifters.

Thats a load of crap it was a british lifter who was first caught out by being timed out i know because his one of my lifters !
Secondly the reason you had a nice whipy bar to use was because your Finish mates insisted that the bar we used all week and everyone liked had to be changed over to that old bar for the last two days ! the good bar was mine !

And you can stop spreading lies around the net that you talked to the swedish team about the squatting bar. no one on our team talked to you about that we use the same bar as you had. we didn't talk to you about any accident.

/markus

Realy ? i think you better check out your information before speaking ! i spoke to several Swedish & Norwegian lifters and i have the videos !

no you didn't speak with any swedish lifters about the bar. I just got off the phone with a teammate and he comfirmed this. whether you have talked to norwegian or not isn't in my intrest. you said that you talk to swedish lifters and that we now use the same bar in sweden. this is ot true. post the video if you like.

Michael Martin Wood the 1st wrote:
Why do my comments posted with my name keep getting deleted? True, I continually yell at SEANZILLA but I post my full name and refrain from excess profanity? I merely try to discourage RAAAAAAAAAAAAW enthusiasts to attend the OTHER big meet. One run by a gentleman and fellow BROTHER in iron. Again, I don't give a crap about the magazine industry, I don't do this for the money, and I respect all types of lifting.I realize that he is a promoter and running down other feds is just part of his idea of buisness, but come on?!!!! I do not speak on behalf on NGBB but I will make a point of begging my training partners and coach to steer clear of this creep. Just a reminder Jon Grove, who was injured and had to token bench still made the trip, because thats the kind of guy he is. He is also the APF ga pres. An evil multiply
guy has enough class to help his cause, and all this turd can due is run everyone else down.
-Michael Martin Wood the 1st-please dont delete

They weren't deleted intentionally. Perhaps you accidentally left your name off or they quoted a comment which was deleted?

Thanks to Debbie Daminga (USA) well done girl!!Can I also add - that all the USA lifters were a pleasure. I have not seen Steph or Krista since I competed in 1997 - they are fabulous ambassadors for your Country - girls it was fab seeing you again after so long -see you next year in Finland !!!

Ness Batcheldor (Gibson)

Vanessa Batcheldor wrote:
Thanks to Debbie Daminga (USA) well done girl!!Can I also add - that all the USA lifters were a pleasure. I have not seen Steph or Krista since I competed in 1997 - they are fabulous ambassadors for your Country - girls it was fab seeing you again after so long -see you next year in Finland !!!

Ness Batcheldor (Gibson)

Vanessa,

You, Brian and your entire group obviously worked hard to put on a wonderful meet. The venue was outstanding and every person I met from British Powerlifting was helpful, encouraging and professional. My experience on the platform was absolutely fair, both in terms of judging and equipment. I very much appreciated that the clock was running and enforced, a meet of this size and caliber demands that; the meet would have run far later into the night without that enforcement. Thank you so much for a great meet, it was a pleasure to meet you, and we will see you in Finland!

Debbie

As lifters I think we believe conditions have to be perfect for us to lift. With equipment today there is little chance for error. We do not take in account for human errors during the meet. It happens. I've been lifting for over 17 years as well as being a judge. Sometimes we get a gift and sometimes we get screwed. Did anyone catch the fiasco with Ireland missing out on the world cup semis? If any one has a right to complain about officiating they have a case.
Every minute of this meet was not a powerlifters dream, but it wasn't a fiasco as some are picturing it. Hell, you people had this meet condemned days before the first lifter set foot on the platform. And these were guys that had no intention of showing up but loved to drag the lifters that were going and Brian B and his wife along with them. No Class. Running a meet is a thankless job. You never here from anyone if it is run well only if you feel you got screwed. My opinion. Next time come to the meet, make a statement by making your lift look so obviously good that the judges remember you on your second lift. You'll get the benefit of the doubt on the next lift. I saw a lot of openers that look so scarey that they either bombed or never got a second or third. Watch the meet before your flight and see if something is amiss with the officiating or the platform. I think people were not used to a time keeper on the platform and I threw them off. Ever run a meet with out it? They tend to drag on forever.
As for Brian B and his wife, I was not pleased with some things about the meet as I'm sure they were not either, but it was a first rate facility and a lot of highs and excitement. Personally everything I feared about this meet with the time difference, traveling, just all the unknowns, never happened. I had a ball. As for next year I see it's not in the Ukraine but Finland, well I'd better check the exchange rate and save my pennies. I wouldn't want to miss out.
ThankYou Brian for making my first trip to the UK a well worth experience.
Tracy Frein
Master 50-54
90k

Any word on how the masters competitors did?
Or Tracy could you fill us in on how John B did? or yourself?

Now with more " shut up and lift"

John was unopposed. Squat: 255k? bench 145k? DL 245k?
Somewhere around there,
I took third, opened with 180. Good lift.
Went to 187 because competition was at 185k. Just could lock it. And It was what I did at Nationals. Hurried the lift. Then jumped to 200k, only because I wanted to give it a shot and gamble for first.
Not a problem handling it out of the rack, touched easily but wasn't going to be there that day. Wasn't disappointed because a year ago I wasn't even hitting this in the meet. And now with 180 and know I'm opening and taking bigger shots. Really missed my coach Bill Busby there. There is plenty of training and always another meet around the corner. I'll be back in the 3 lifts for Nationals. Over all, John and I had a lot of fun. And it's always old home week when everyone gets to the meet.
Scott Craig broke a world record, 62 years old. Great job. Mostly impressed how Dick Zenzen looked. I'm sorry I don't have numbers. He could tell you.
Master lifters never give you trouble, we are just glad to still be doing this and making gains.

Staff wrote:
Michael Martin Wood the 1st wrote:
Why do my comments posted with my name keep getting deleted? True, I continually yell at SEANZILLA but I post my full name and refrain from excess profanity? I merely try to discourage RAAAAAAAAAAAAW enthusiasts to attend the OTHER big meet. One run by a gentleman and fellow BROTHER in iron. Again, I don't give a crap about the magazine industry, I don't do this for the money, and I respect all types of lifting.I realize that he is a promoter and running down other feds is just part of his idea of buisness, but come on?!!!! I do not speak on behalf on NGBB but I will make a point of begging my training partners and coach to steer clear of this creep. Just a reminder Jon Grove, who was injured and had to token bench still made the trip, because thats the kind of guy he is. He is also the APF ga pres. An evil multiply
guy has enough class to help his cause, and all this turd can due is run everyone else down.
-Michael Martin Wood the 1st-please dont delete

They weren't deleted intentionally. Perhaps you accidentally left your name off or they quoted a comment which was deleted?

I bet this contest was a lot of fun. The people with complaints will always be more vocal than the ones with compliments. That's true in almost any business.

And I'm glad that you got your chance to yell at me online some more Martin. I have no idea who you are so I'm glad that you clung to Jon Grove's good name for your support (some guys need support 24/7 so keep yourself supplied.)

And for the record, I went out of my way to get Jon Grove featured in an international bodybuilding magazine for his lifting accomplishments. I've known Jon for years and he knows that I have a lot of respect for him as a lifter, coach and person. What's up with trying to recruit other (more successful and famous) men to fight your battles? It's not an Us vs Him fight. I'm not taking on everyone in the world who's put on a double ply squat suit. Learn to stand on your own two feet like an adult.

Stay Strong,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

http://www.gometal.com/pages.php?gb=2&act=shm&mid=36

SEANZILLA. I am an average powerlifter with an above average love for the sport. I will not break a world record, but I will continue to hit PR's and support FELLOW BROTHERS IN IRON. No matter what gear they do or don't wear I feel a kinship with them. One way or another its men (and women) pushing themselves to the limits, striving for more, hitting PR's, bombing,highs, lows, achy hot showers, stinky balm, snorting amonia caps, bleeding shins, callused torn chalk covered hands, get it?

As I stated above I do NOT speak for NGBB, but I will do my best to discourage my friends and training partners from attending your promotion as you are a douchenozzle and I do not care for your snarky attitude.

As for the snide comment about support 24/7....your right Jon gives it. I had the worst year of my life and managed to put in a horrible performance as an out of shape 308 last month. The amount of support from my friends and training partners while my fat ass was wheezing on the platform helped rekindle my passion for the sport. Having everyone yelling at me and looking at that MONOLIFT brought tears to my eyes, literally. I'm down to 270 and ready to rock. So fuck you, I do need support and I'm blessed enough to have people who care enough to catch me when I fall.

I love this sport and I see you squandering a great opportunity as at least you come up with money. I rarely comment on anything on these forums, and my only quarrel with you is that you are an a**hole.

By the way, though I am an AVERAGE lifter, but I have recorded a 419 lb RAW contest bench and pulled over six with no belt "super RAW"(cause I was too fat and out of shape to wear one, not to prove a point) in a meet a few weeks ago.I wont mention squats, cause I know you dont do it,(I know, it takes HEART to squat, and you don't have it).

Youre a promoter, and I understand that. Causing a stir or a little controversy is part of the game. Your constant yapping however, is more suited for a child who doesn't care if his attention is positive or negative. I also understand you don't attack EVERYONE in multiply gear, just the 90% that don't benifit your agenda.

How can you attack the integrity of a federation that a man is the president of and proclaim to have the utmost respect for him in the same breath?

My tirade is finished, and one of the hundreds, perhaps thousands of LIFTERS who dislike you just as much will take their turn.

Michael Martin Wood - Average Multiply Guy

I'm glad that you're getting the support that you need Michael Martin Wood. I hope that you feel better. If you ever need more of my time and more attention you can send me an email at seanzilla@hardcorepowerlifting.com or leave your name and phone # on our office voicemail at 1.503.221.2238.

Stay Strong,
Sean
HardcorePowerlifting.com

BRIAN,
GREAT MEET. THERE WERE CONDITIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.LETS MOVE ON NOW TO FINLAND. ENGLAND WAS WONDERFUL. YOUR PEOPLE WERE JUST AMAZING AND IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO TALKS SHIT, SEND THEM MY WAY. I CANT WAIT FOR FINLAND NEXT YEAR TO SEE ALL MY REAL FRIENDS WHO I TRULY FIT IN WITH. I HAD A GREAT TIME. MENDY

Just some random thoughts about the meet
The meet was run smoothly and was well organized. The spotters did a very good job. It's not their fault when lifters bail out from under the bar, which happened far too often. Depth calls from the front judge were a problem on Saturday, but seemed to be improved on Sunday. The stage that the lifting platform was on seemed to have way too much give in it, but its hard for someone to know that without standing up with 1000 lbs on your back. I didn't have the type of day that I wanted, but still enjoyed the event. Finally, I just want to thank Brian and everyone involved in putting on the meet, it was obvious alot of time, preparation, and money was spent to put on a high caliber contest.
John Ewing

Proudly sponsored by Titan Support Systems Inc.

Hey John! Sorry for the outcome. You are a class act in all aspects! See you in March or sooner. Tell everyone hello!

Are the full rsults out there for all to see if so what site ??

www.worldpowerliftingcongress.com

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