WPC Worlds Best Lifter

Thats one hard list to choose from ! 100kg bwt is gonna be one hell of a showdown normaly i would have gone for Belyaev but this is powerlifting and anything can happen with Martin Brown and Kyle Vauls in that line up, and there were others not on the roster from late entries so i will put my money on the one lifter who has his name already on a Gold Medal = me ! lol

i really think if belvaey shows up with the ability to maximise his potential in double ply equipment. we will see him go well over 1000kgs. but seeing as how he is IPF for years, does a raw competition he wont be training in equipment as long as the other boys.

I think its probably reasonable to assume what numbers belyaev will be doing as he seems to revolve around the same squt and deadlift numbers for the past 3 years.

Kyle vauls's lifting is awesome and he's a powerhouse so im rooting for him!!

I think that Belyaev has the potential and the strenght to make over 1100 kg. even in single ply ! He is one incredibly strong phenomenon ! He will take the absolute title so easy !

Why do you think that it will be a close competition?

Belyaev out totaled Martin's British total by 176lbs whilst lifting in single ply at a lighter bodyweight.

Last month Belyaev totaled 2024lbs RAW (with a lot to spare) vs the above two lifters totals of 2079 and 1984 in multi ply earlier in the year.

I hope everybody lifts to their best and it would be great if it was a close competition, but I suspect something will have to go very wrong for Belyaev not to be well clear.

Coombes and Jenkins have a excellant chances.

Simple i seen no confirmation Belyaev will be there ! the Russian list was subject to visa's and till i see them all at the venue then its open to anyone.
I also think we will see the strictest refereeing yet at a WPC meet and that can cause a few upsets.

Dude, belyaev used to lift in the IPF. What you may consider STRICT judging makes him laugh, belyaev will take this title easy as fuck. 440 - 300 - 380 with singleply.

Obviously Belyaev can't win if he isn't there, but that has nothing to do with the other lifters you mentioned and how they lift. Neither does it have anything to do with the refereeing - although I doubt he will have a problem.

So what do you think - if he turns up (and gets a lift in) he'll win easily? (probably with over 1100kg total if he has bothered to make any attempt to learn to use multi ply).

Hopefully he'll manage to get to lift - for me it will be the highlight of the lifting (after the masters bench on Tuesday of course)

"IF" he turns up ! i never said anything about his lifting being suspect quite the oposite but seeing is believing and untill i see confirmation his there i wouldnt go voting or predicting anything.
I do hope he does turn up his a star act

ps: the names not Dude and i also lifted in IPF longer than most people been alive

Well, then i misunderstood you and apologize for that! Have a nice day, and i wish every lifter on that list good luck at worlds!

Yes if Belyaev is there then its hard to see anyone beating him his technique is perfect and his in a class of his own , this is a very strong line up and the others will battle it out no matter who is there its going to be something special on the day.

Quote David Edwards: (after the masters bench on Tuesday of course)
Hey what was wrong with Day 1 ! hahaha i will be lifting day 1 then helping out for the rest of the week bringing competion bars and bench with me and helping coach in warmup room and still hope to find time to video as much as they let me,
didnt mention Chris Jenkins as i not seen him lift at 100kg before so got no idea what his bringing to the table but i expect it will include a 1st class deadlift

Is Al Meechan a network technician?
;)

I reckon CHRIS JENKINS is gona clean up - hes awsome and hes my cuz im so proud of him and I love him 2 bits xxx da iawn cariad xxx

Chris Jenkins is thee most dedicated and unbelievably talented athlete iv ever had the privilege to know and admire for his capabilities. Not only is amazing at what he does and incredibly strong but also a genuine kind and loyal person to kno.. Very competitive but this is obviously a sport where being competitive is essential .. Good luck chris . xx

Gotta add my weight into the Chris Jenkins corner, really genuine guy and very nice person.

Quite surprised he's gone up to that weight class, but I would bet the house on the fact it means he's bringing something big! Guys a strong squatter, Huge deadlifter, and loves the competition from what I can see

Should be a cracking weight class, with only one definite outcome...... everyones going to be a winner because these guys will bring the best out in one another.

So What about Iranian WPC lifters.

MEHDI FATEMI
BABAK Ghazbani
MOHAMAD BAGHERI

Yeah he can clean up.

Yeah he can clean up.

no ones mentioned Dot Shaw is back ! she recently smashed all the world records in both masters and open at the UK Open but not officialy but i expect they will be after the worlds

Chris Jenkins is a fantastc lifter and I have alot of respect for the guy, but sadly he's no Andrey Belyaev.

Belyaev can beat him single ply and to stricter IPF standards. Having said that I sincerely hope Chris proves us wrong, good luck to him and all the lifters!

It will be great to see her lift again, but are you sure she unofficially broke the Open World Records Alan?

Her previous best are a very long way off.

Yet, I have told him constantly hatheshoul have gone up a weight class years ago. Nowhere near his potential. When he fills them long arms out and switches his deadlift to sumo he will be a neast at 100kgs. I said it first!!

He was a black belt in Shotokan karate, a national sprinter at school and could have been world class in about 5 different sports. If Chris listens he will be one of the greats some day. Go heavyer and stop cutting weight

I think you will find that Chris has out pulled him at 82.5's, so at what weight? 198, becuase we have yet to see mr Jenkins at a full 100kgs with a sumo stance??

He needs to be a full 110kg to be at his full potential. Look at the diffrece in height. How tall is Jekins and Belyaev?

No Chris just missed 341kg at 82kg conv, Belyaev has done 335kg sumo but very close.

Chris's European record at 82.5kg is 322.5kg - quite a difference from 341kg. Just missed counts for nothing.

That's on his best lift - he's no where near (in competition on the others)

Unless something completely expected happens it won't even be close.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but Jenkins was good for 330-340kg at last years worlds at 82.5kg and with extra bodyweight his lifts will be more competitive this outing. I dont think the deadlift is his best lift either. I think his squat will be up there judging by the videos he posted a few months ago, I'm a Chris Jenkins fan and I would like to see him bring out his best lifts and then see where we are at.

If something expected happens? whats that he turns up and lifts :)

Dont you mean unexpected happens

Al Mehan is a great guy and i wish him the best of luck for the WPC and by the way good luck to all the Metal Militia Montreal team!! Lift strong

12.5kgs is not worlds apart when you slap 2 stone of muscle on

The British mst know something that we dont, Jenkins must be on for something

He doesn't need just 12.5kg with the additional 2 stone.

To be on a par at the heavier bodyweight he needs to have added 50kg onto his deadlift.

Whats he pulling now? Are you his training partner??

From the looks of what Chris Jenkins has been doing in training recently and saying reasonable targets seem to be - 400 squat, 260 bench and 350 deadlift (possibly even being generous on the dead cause he pulled 362.5 from the knee on blocks, but only time will tell). That gives a total of 1,010 kgs double ply, open back bench shirt etc.

Andrey Belyaev Cup of Titans 24th May 2009 ... 425 squat, 290 bench, 355 deadlift giving a total of 1070 kgs with single ply gear, not an open back bench shirt and to IPF depth and rules.

Andrey Belyaev WPC Raw Worlds ... 320 squat, 230 bench press, 370 deadlift giving a total of 950 kgs unequipped and walking out his squats which he then hit to what would be an IPF acceptable depth.

I just can't see Jenkins coming close to Belyaev barring some sort of freak disaster. Truthfully Chris Jenkins is one of the best powerlifters in the World and has and will no doubt continue to achieve great things, but Belyaev is simply on another level.

Ed Coan is widely recognised as the best powerlifter of all time, but if Belyaev hadn't been banned from the IPF let's face facts Ed as good as he is and was probably wouldn't have records left in that federation for much longer. Obviously Belyaev got banned for being a drug cheat, but Ed obviously was too given that he was also banned and there can be no doubt he was using drugs when he set his records.

It will be extremley interesting to see how things play out at the competition and who knows I might be made to eat my words, but things just seem to point in one direction for me.

PS. I don't train with Chris this is merely conjecture.

I think we are all getting a little ahead of ourselves. The likelyhood is that Jenkins will be at 90kg and Belyeav at 100kg. He was at 82.5's at the British I cant see him moving up two weight classes. Regardless of what has been posted Jenkins still has his best years ahead of im in powerlifting/

I think you will also find you have added the raw total up incorrectly to 950, the lifts you mentioned combined are 920. I thought I would point that out as you discredited my post about Jenkins 82.5kg deadlift being just as strong as Belyaevs because in reality it is.

Both lifters Jenkins and Belyaev at 82.5kgs are both even on the deadlift from what we know, oh and funny you mention it Belyaev has benched 2.5kgs more at the weight. Jenkins 222.5kg bench was done in a single ply Ketana so how are the lifts so different? At 198 Belyeav is a lot stronger FACT.

Jenkins from the looks of what I have read online was going to move up to a more natural wieght for him of 100 kgs, though from what I seen on an online forum recently seemed keen to got to 90 kgs to face a Slovakian guy who beat him when his shoulder was injured. It was suggested on said forum that it was an odd coincendence such a decision was appealing to him after it became apparent Belyaev was doing the worlds at 100 kgs. Who knows though to be honest.

Good luck Chris, them Russians are tough brother!

Belyaev pulled an easy 370 in a singlet!!! Ed Coan(back in the day) and Belyaev might be level on the deads, but nobody else should be mentioned in that breath.

Nope wrong guy, too many people posting as anonymous I guess, but you are right about one thing I did make a typo on the raw total lol.

Don't get me wrong though I think Chris is a fantastic lifter and this isn't an attack on him, I just simply see the clear fact of the matter being that Belyaev is on another level.

Could be that the roster was released and thats when he found out, I doubt he would avoid somebody in a weight class.

Mike Bridges?

Jenkins is up and coming.

What are Chris Jenkin's actual best competition lifts? It doesn't count for anything until you produce it on the platform.

This is what makes me laugh, he has never competed at 220. Give him a break

So why would you expect him to be able to just move up and instantly be one of the best of all time - it usually takes lifters quite a while to grow into a new weight class.

Is Belyaev definitely lifting at 100kg? With a 24hr weigh in perhaps he may fancy lifting at 90kg again.

Isn't Belyaev younger?

Lol Chris \jenkins has 29% of the vote

Chris Jenkins has nice hair and even nicer legs

Jenkins recent bench press lifts are open back double ply, he has a vid of 265 from 1 board. Belyaev did 290 single ply full range of motion and paused to IPF standards in May.

what are chris jenkins best lifts?

whats craig coombes best lifts?

Fact of the matter the Russians probably wont go, Kyle Vauls, Martin Brown and other lifters have just as much of a chance.

I would like to see Craig Coombes and Belyaev, 460kg squat need I say more

This guy kills them all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK3x_Cgw8as

Nice squat in vid. Belyaev did 425 single ply to below parallel and walked it out.

belyaev will squat over 500 if he only needs to do a quarter squat like the one in that video

quarter squat with spotters help ))

Andrew tell me that he want to lift well in England

;)

i hope he haven't a problems with visa

Really hope he can make it, he's a fantastic lifter and from the looks of things would have an awesome competition with the other guys who are lined up for it!

What a pity, such a talented lifter like Belyayev such kind of powerlifting meet.

Half squat, half bench, half powerlifting.

Well, Belyaev will without a doubt put the squats deep and do it right! Whatever Belyaev does, he does it better than everyone else!

I hope Belyaev does teh 2010 raw worlds aswell

So i am led to believe by what the table commentator said , as we never got a results sheet i dont know for sure but i did video it she is lifting at 3:11 on video http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Hirepgym#p/u/7/hlAln2H6oko

Craig coombes best competition lifts are

460kg squat
310kg bench
330kg Deadlift

Judging from the way he lifted at the British in July there is more to come.

It's a masters record of 235kg

Nick Zhukov wrote:
quarter squat with spotters help ))

Andrew tell me that he want to lift well in England

;)

i hope he haven't a problems with visa

lmao Craig will smash you and him with his squat and bench

You think somebody who lifts 1080kg multiply at 110kg is going to beat somebody who lifts 1070kg at 100kg in single ply to IPF standards?????

yes i believe that was her opener and she continued to keep breaking more but i ran out of tape so had to limit what i recorded so i could get some deadlifts in

I've got to agree with Mr Edwards here.

Imagine if Belyaev lifted in WPC standard gear too, squatted to their depth etc, the numbers he would put up would be down right scary!

why are people banging on about squatting to IPF standards? 3 white lights are a squat in any fed whether people like it or not. hope the british lads perform well.

It's harder to squat to IPF standards and thus is a more impressive and challenging feat, but your right it doesn't matter for crap as long as you get the white lights and the lift passed.

been training chris hard for this, not seen him this good for a very long time! look out world, we are gonna be putting the power back in powerlifting chumps!

Who are you then I trained with him earlyer in Bridgend.. hmmmm

Because they're different!

Whatever you squat under IPF rules, you will almost certainly squat significantly more under WPC rules (if you bother to modify your technique and kit to take advantage of the different rules & interpretation)

Mr Anonymous needs go take some Koolaid Chris & Belaev wont even be on the same platform together so dont get so excited
Until there is an updated finalised roster we dont know just who is lifting.

He pulled 320kg like an empty bar up at the Ministry a few weeks ago, he's good against anybody

It's really sad that a bunch of people are talking crap about a lifter, I'm sure this poll was about getting behind people

If you want to compare Chris to anyone, how about you compare him to your selves?? Oh wait, that would be a no contest

Fantastic if you are a Belaev fan, He's one hell of a lifter. But I'm pretty sure you can get behind your favourite lifter without putting another lifter down

What ever Chris does it will be worth watching, the guys is enthusiastic, talented, and supportive of other lifters. Would be nice if some anonymous posters would be supportive, instead of tearing people down with prejudice

Why are Jenkins and Belyaev being compared all the time, there are some other strong lifters in the comp that could win neil deighton martin brown justin hurley kyle vauls Mark Cullimore gareth davies jamie burke none have been mentioned

At what weight 198 or 220 are they both the same weight class.

The poll asked who was best - just because a person believes Belyaev is better doesn't mean they are in someway putting Chris down. With the exception of a couple of posts, which you would have hoped would be deleted, I really don't see anybody is putting Chris down, they just believe Belyaev is better. Being compared to one of the best lifters in the World really is a complement.

I origionally made the rather long post comparing Jenkins and Belyaevs lifts in past comps and expressing the view that I simply thought the facts pointed to Belyaev being the stronger lifter and most likely to win. This was in no way intended to put Chris Jenkins down, because let's face it if he is even being mention in a poll for best lifter at the WPC worlds he is someone of exceptional talent.

I am very much looking forward to the competition and sincerely hope Belyaev gets a visa to go. As others have mention there will be other lifters in contention also and like always in sport anything can happen on the day!

Good luck to Chris, Andrey and everyone else involved in the competition, they are all at one of the highest levels of our sport and as such merit respect!

Greetings from home of Wamberto Salazar.

Wamberto has timed his bide and now is moment for speech. Simples are the observation, facts speak louder than non facts, Rodney Belyaev has equals of none, not even Wamberto himself or Wamberto Junior both champions of the cup.

Chris of the Jenkins from land of galic sun is lifter of impressive altitiude, but unlike the mail he will not deliver title of champions in this cup of cups. Craig of the Catacombs also lifter of high altitude but again rival he can not comrades Rodney Belyaev. His lift in video of the squat reach only in the mountains when to the bottom of the valley is the squat of Rodney Belyaev and with more of the kilograms.

The wisdoms of Wamberto are more further on from repproach, the fact of the books mean more than the talk of the peoples who know Chirs post the letter Jenkins and Craig to big the height of the squat Catacombs.

The most of luck to all who make part in the competition for benefit of family and fan club.

Lift the greatest of the weights and eat big pie afterwards is what Wamberto say always to them who are in range of listen. Brothers we are all in the metal!

I was referring to the ones that over stepped the mark, and make it sound like no one should turn up if Belyaev is there.

I'm not sure Justin Hurley is competing, he's one strong guy! He had a few operations on his shoulder and hip and I believe he is on the way back but not at this comp

I'd love to see him lift!

Justin is on the roster competing @ 90kg bwt and his bought a team t shirt

Justin Hurley would give Belyaev a run for his money if he was healthy

what are justin hurley's best lifts?

world class