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Video of Andrey Belyaev's WPC Raw Worlds

Nick Zhukov has uploaded video of Russian Andrey Belyaev (220) competing on Saturday at the inaugural WPC Raw Powerlifting World Championships in Rostov on Don, Russia. The 26-year-old Belyaev posted a 2,028 pound (920kg) total that ranks him seventh in the world on the Powerlifting Watch Power Rankings. He squatted 705 pounds (320kg), benched 507 (230kg), and deadlifted 815 pounds (370kg). Belyaev did not take a final squat.


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Lets see Frankl try duplicate that.

Belyaev owning the powerlifting throne right now.

He looks like he weighs about 250. When were the weigh-ins?

Anonymous wrote:
He looks like he weighs about 250. When were the weigh-ins?

he doesn't look any bigger than he did when competing with 2hour weigh ins in IPF

what can he do if he lift for max? all lift was very easy.

Unbelievable.

He's amazing. The strongest lifter in the world and the best since Ed Coan in my opinion.

AAAAAAAhahaha!!Belyaev is just fooling around on the platform,all lifts where soooooo easy!Squats was ass to calves!

Does anyone know how tall this guy is? He looks huge for 220.

Belayev great lifter and great to watch. I'm sure it's been said before, but what everbody needs to remember is Coan benched 545 and deadlifted 901 raw at 220. We can speculate his squat, but I would bet it's safe to say 8oo, maybe even close to 850, if he had too. I believe he did around 800x2 in training raw. The 901 DL and 545 bench was when he totaled 2400+ at 220. At that meet the 959 squat was in an Inzer z.

It would be cool if both could have gone head to head at their best. Who know what they would push each other to.

Belayev,will NEVER beat Coan's numbers and if Frankl started juicing we would see his numbers jump.

Frankl is drug free???

)))))

ha ha

Anonymous wrote:
Belayev,will NEVER beat Coan's numbers and if Frankl started juicing we would see his numbers jump.

No- Belaev MAY never beat Coan's best but thats hardly a put down is it?

B wrote:
Belayev great lifter and great to watch. I'm sure it's been said before, but what everbody needs to remember is Coan benched 545 and deadlifted 901 raw at 220. We can speculate his squat, but I would bet it's safe to say 8oo, maybe even close to 850, if he had too. I believe he did around 800x2 in training raw. The 901 DL and 545 bench was when he totaled 2400+ at 220. At that meet the 959 squat was in an Inzer z.

It would be cool if both could have gone head to head at their best. Who know what they would push each other to.

Why did Coan hit the 901 dead and 2400 total only once?

Were the plates weighed after the 91 seniors?

Andrey Belyaev won due to better technique and better leverages. Check out his elbows in the bottom of the bench, they arent even at 90 degrees. Or the start of his deadlift? Fantastic leverages and technique.

Look at how CLOSE Andrey Kisel is at total(and consider the screw job he got on the bench). Andrey isnt a one of a kind lifter from there, they are growing them on tree's! j/k

Awesome lifting.

Gratton wrote:
B wrote:
Belayev great lifter and great to watch. I'm sure it's been said before, but what everbody needs to remember is Coan benched 545 and deadlifted 901 raw at 220. We can speculate his squat, but I would bet it's safe to say 8oo, maybe even close to 850, if he had too. I believe he did around 800x2 in training raw. The 901 DL and 545 bench was when he totaled 2400+ at 220. At that meet the 959 squat was in an Inzer z.

It would be cool if both could have gone head to head at their best. Who know what they would push each other to.

Why did Coan hit the 901 dead and 2400 total only once?

Were the plates weighed after the 91 seniors?

Yes, they were weighed, thats how they got to the weight 901 not 898 or 904.

That was real lifting. You won't see anyone doubting any of those lifts because there is no doubt. How can many of the high squats we see so often even be considered legit after this performance? I do not care what sanction this was done in, it was perfect lifting, and easy.

As for Coan, there was a video of him on this site doing an equipped 950 double in the squat. Not sure if he was weighing over 220 in that, but check the video and see how easy it was. The gear he had on then cannot compare to today's stuff either. His 901 dead is on there also. Who knows. Both unreal lifters.

Why did Coan hit the 901 dead and 2400 total only once?

Were the plates weighed after the 91 seniors?

Yes, they were weighed, thats how they got to the weight 901 not 898 or 904

There are people much more in the know about Coan than me, but as Lance said, the plates were weighed, and the DL came out to 901, as well as the total 2408 as opposed to 2403.

He did total 2400 again at 242. I was able to pull out some stats, where he totaled 2300+ 7x @ 220, and DL 850+ @220 8x in meets.

Again, no dis to belayev, but Coan did a lot more back in the day, with the benches and DL's being raw due to USPF/IPF rules in the bench back then. Raw DL was his choice.

belyaev and the other lifters at this meet have set an example that many of us should try to emulate. there's no bullshit in any of these videos. you don't see any of these people trying to see what they can get away with as far as depth on squats or touch and go instead of a pause on bench. some of them even know that a raw squat is supposed to be walked out and they do it on their own without being forced to simply because it's the right way to do it. the competitors at this meet respect powerlifting and treat it like a serious sport. if we all took that approach and stopped just going for numbers at any cost this sport could have a very bright future.

Wow is all I can say. All of those lifts were unbelievably fast.

Dan

B wrote:

Again, no dis to belayev, but Coan did a lot more back in the day,

Not true? Belaev exceeded Ed's IPF squat record at the Titans Cup. Ed's 390 IPF record looks very attainable going by the ease of the 370.

Give Belaev credit, he does belong in the same class as Coan. Bridges Gant and Sivokon.

180#s out of his single ply squat suit. Who'd a thunk.

Anonymous wrote:
180#s out of his single ply squat suit. Who'd a thunk.

180#? I thought andrey had done 425kgs, which is 220#s.. But the squat was easy so he had more in the tank i guess

watcher wrote:
B wrote:

Again, no dis to belayev, but Coan did a lot more back in the day,

Not true? Belaev exceeded Ed's IPF squat record at the Titans Cup. Ed's 390 IPF record looks very attainable going by the ease of the 370.

Give Belaev credit, he does belong in the same class as Coan. Bridges Gant and Sivokon.

and eric coppin!!!!!!

watcher wrote:
B wrote:

Again, no dis to belayev, but Coan did a lot more back in the day,

Not true? Belaev exceeded Ed's IPF squat record at the Titans Cup. Ed's 390 IPF record looks very attainable going by the ease of the 370.

Give Belaev credit, he does belong in the same class as Coan. Bridges Gant and Sivokon.

Hey watcher,
Ipf records aren't attainable for him because he got popped at that meet.

He is as close to those guys levels.

Watcher,we started out talking raw with Coan and Belayev, and the only lifts that are comparable under meet conditions were BP and DL.

As far as Ed's squat record, now we're throwing gear in. I don't even want to go in this direction, but a Z-suit and today's centurion aren't close. Just the way it is. Belayev does deserve the record, he smokes the weight. Different conditions, different times.

So are we talking raw or geared lifts? This topic was started about how imprssive the raw lifts were.

Now Eddie broke records of lifters prior to him, gear change were less drastic. I'm sure the knee wraps were improved. But the marathon double goldlines were around for years.

Maybe some of thge older lifters can chime in regarding the difference in the Marathon Supersuits, and the Inzer Z's. I only used the Inzer Champion back then, big difference today.

Too bad we couldn't get a forum with the greats of today and trhe past. I wonder how Mike Bridges sees things. The difference between his 837@181 back in the early 80's versus his 804@220 this year at 50+ years of age.

Anonymous wrote:
belyaev and the other lifters at this meet have set an example that many of us should try to emulate. there's no bullshit in any of these videos. you don't see any of these people trying to see what they can get away with as far as depth on squats or touch and go instead of a pause on bench. some of them even know that a raw squat is supposed to be walked out and they do it on their own without being forced to simply because it's the right way to do it. the competitors at this meet respect powerlifting and treat it like a serious sport. if we all took that approach and stopped just going for numbers at any cost this sport could have a very bright future.

Well said.

some might say I'm high on crack. but I think the Marathon deadlift suit yet has to be matched for performance.
The squat suit was kick ass for guys who was back strong like Eddie and Fred H.

Belyayev make every one shut up.

Perfect lift, techinique trade mark of the gratest coach of ever Boris Ivanovich Sheiko.

Every one who knows of powerlifting know that well before he made this raw meet.

By the way, lifting in IFP or in WPO is very different. Wada control limit a lot non clean lifters. Dont forget this.

This guys is another stud, he really jack's up the deads' and has more horse power left....he is a great guy and helps everybody that asks...

definitely capable of adding another 100 lbs to his total.

Anonymous wrote:
definitely capable of adding another 100 lbs to his total.

Neither of these guys are using wraps. Are their placings on the power ranking behind Stan Efferding really accurate or could perhaps somethin be done to adjust that blatant flaw?
Just curious.

Anonymous wrote:
definitely capable of adding another 100 lbs to his total.

Easily!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
definitely capable of adding another 100 lbs to his total.

Neither of these guys are using wraps. Are their placings on the power ranking behind Stan Efferding really accurate or could perhaps somethin be done to adjust that blatant flaw?
Just curious.

good question, and seriously jon the fact that this isn't in the #1 spot means you might want to think about reworking your formula a little bit.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
definitely capable of adding another 100 lbs to his total.

Neither of these guys are using wraps. Are their placings on the power ranking behind Stan Efferding really accurate or could perhaps somethin be done to adjust that blatant flaw?
Just curious.

good question, and seriously jon the fact that this isn't in the #1 spot means you might want to think about reworking your formula a little bit.

Wraps are taken into account in the Power Rankings formula.

By any of the commonly accepted formulas Efferding's total, before adjustment, clearly beats Belyaev's. Once wraps are taken into account it makes it almost a dead heat. The remaining factors are the same for the two lifters.

Joel D wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
definitely capable of adding another 100 lbs to his total.

Easily!

You got that from video? I don't care how fast things move, sometimes that's just the lifters way and its also the same way they miss, fast.

Make no number claims, unless you know FOR SURE!

Staff wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
definitely capable of adding another 100 lbs to his total.

Neither of these guys are using wraps. Are their placings on the power ranking behind Stan Efferding really accurate or could perhaps somethin be done to adjust that blatant flaw?
Just curious.

good question, and seriously jon the fact that this isn't in the #1 spot means you might want to think about reworking your formula a little bit.

Wraps are taken into account in the Power Rankings formula.

By any of the commonly accepted formulas Efferding's total, before adjustment, clearly beats Belyaev's. Once wraps are taken into account it makes it almost a dead heat. The remaining factors are the same for the two lifters.


belyaev's squat is walked out and taken to ipf depth and the benches are paused.

Anonymous wrote:
Joel D wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
definitely capable of adding another 100 lbs to his total.

Easily!

You got that from video? I don't care how fast things move, sometimes that's just the lifters way and its also the same way they miss, fast.
Make no number claims, unless you know FOR SURE!


Not raw!

Anonymous wrote:
Staff wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
definitely capable of adding another 100 lbs to his total.

Neither of these guys are using wraps. Are their placings on the power ranking behind Stan Efferding really accurate or could perhaps somethin be done to adjust that blatant flaw?
Just curious.

good question, and seriously jon the fact that this isn't in the #1 spot means you might want to think about reworking your formula a little bit.

Wraps are taken into account in the Power Rankings formula.

By any of the commonly accepted formulas Efferding's total, before adjustment, clearly beats Belyaev's. Once wraps are taken into account it makes it almost a dead heat. The remaining factors are the same for the two lifters.


belyaev's squat is walked out and taken to ipf depth and the benches are paused.

Video of the lifts are not reviewed for the Power Rankings. Lifts are recorded to the limits of the federation or division rules. So even if a lifter walks a squat out of a monolift or doesn't wear knee wraps when rules allow, their points are assigned as if they did. The Power Rankings would be impossible to keep if the equipment worn for and performance of every single lift had to be verified.

Squatting deeper does not earn one extra points.

I hope the WPC raw world champs will become somewhat of game changer and that other feds will start to tighten up their judging as well.

It's nice to see lifters getting their stuff together for good, clean lifts.

Perhaps there is hope for Powerlifting after all.

This is what powerlifting is all about. Pure measure of strength with strict judging - can't beat that. Honestly, if more meets like this are put together, powerlifting will finally get the recognition as the ultimate power/strength sport that it is.
Excellent display of strength by these athletes.

Anonymous wrote:
This is what powerlifting is all about. Pure measure of strength with strict judging - can't beat that. Honestly, if more meets like this are put together, powerlifting will finally get the recognition as the ultimate power/strength sport that it is.
Excellent display of strength by these athletes.

Agreed!
What a great display of a lifter and powerlifting.

Where the hell are all the complaints of high squats, soft hand off, un-locked deadlifts....
EXACTLY! THIS IS HOW THE SPORT SHOULD BE...even though I love equipment...just amazing this guy and his true lifts!

Anonymous wrote:
watcher wrote:
B wrote:

Again, no dis to belayev, but Coan did a lot more back in the day,

Not true? Belaev exceeded Ed's IPF squat record at the Titans Cup. Ed's 390 IPF record looks very attainable going by the ease of the 370.

Give Belaev credit, he does belong in the same class as Coan. Bridges Gant and Sivokon.

and eric coppin!!!!!!



Ed Coan squatted 423kg (932#) @ 100kg at the IPF Worlds in 1994. Here is a crappy video: http://www.ironscene.com/videos/1428_ed_coan_423kg_wr_squat_at_100_(1994)

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