Johnnie Jackson Defeats Ben White for WSBB

Pro Bodybuildiers Johnnie Jackson and Ben White squared off yesterday in an effort to claim the title of 'World's Strongest Bodybuilder' in the Duel in the Desert at the Olympia.

White built a 50 pound lead after the bench press, hitting 573 pounds to Jackson's 523 pound press.

However, Jackson won the contest going away after pulling 815 pounds. White was able to muster a 633 pound effort. The final push pull totals were 1,338 to 1,206 pounds.

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Did they wear gear or were they raw?

OK, so is Ben still talking smack to Stan? Stan can now officially outbench and outdeadlift him, and Stan's lifts were done AFTER squatting 800+ and incurring an injury!

Lesson: Don't openly trash talk someone who's so far beyond you 'cause you'll just end up looking like an idiot.

Also, Johnnie is really strong, which everyone already knew and was proved by this contest, but, to echo what so many have been saying OVER AND OVER AGAIN, Stan should have been in this contest as he's got both guys beat!

Well, I'm glad that's settled. I always wondered, "Gee, who's the strongest bodybuilder?" and now I know. I'm glad it was down to these two guys after all the elimination rounds.

Oh, you mean they just sort of chose these two guys and didn't let anyone else (like, um, Stan Efferding, for instance) compete? Well, no matter, these guys are REAL bodybuilders. Huh? Stan has a pro card?

Well, then....er....

They was RAW

At least they squatted...

(props to johnnie that is a monster pull)
-Abe Harrod

They were lifting in a classic standard blast shirt and champion suits.

These bb's looked like rocks of solid muscle benching and deadlifting.

harrod wrote:
At least they squatted...

(props to johnnie that is a monster pull)
-Abe Harrod

LOL!

Johnnie Jackson's deadlift is awesome.

Anonymous wrote:
They was RAW

Was they really?

Good deadlift for Johnnie, but in your face to him and Ben, from Stan. STAN IS THE WSBB for sure. Man do I hate fake competitions.

For being 275 pounds of juiced out muscle (or whatever White weighs) 633 pounds is a completely embarassing pull. I would never open my mouth to shit talk if I had a 633 pound pull and was directing my attention towards Jackson and Efferding. Sure his bench is good but being the strongest is a lot more than bench.

They weren't even totally RAW???? Wow! And they talked all junk. Thats such a joke. Go Stan! We are proud of you brother!

Anonymous wrote:
They were lifting in a classic standard blast shirt and champion suits.

These bb's looked like rocks of solid muscle benching and deadlifting.

Thanks for the clarification. It's nice to get some truth in all the hype.

Congrats to both lifters. Johnnie ruled the day.

It does not change the outcome of the event whatsoever, but Ben White did get up a 670 something deadlift, but got off balance at the top and dropped it.
Props to Johnnie Jackson for a huge deadlift!

Did you know that in a gallop poll that 89% of body builders are gay… It’s true I read it on the internet. ;) Way to go Stan!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
They were lifting in a classic standard blast shirt and champion suits.

These bb's looked like rocks of solid muscle benching and deadlifting.

Thanks for the clarification. It's nice to get some truth in all the hype.

Congrats to both lifters. Johnnie ruled the day.

These guys were impressive lifting in classic gear and making their lifts cleanly! Props to WSBB Johnnie Jackson!

Anonymous wrote:
Did they wear gear or were they raw?

You're kidding, aren't you ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
They were lifting in a classic standard blast shirt and champion suits.

These bb's looked like rocks of solid muscle benching and deadlifting.

Thanks for the clarification. It's nice to get some truth in all the hype.

Congrats to both lifters. Johnnie ruled the day.

These guys were impressive lifting in classic gear and making their lifts cleanly! Props to WSBB Johnnie Jackson!

Their Inzer blast shirts they were wearing looked like they were painted on. Very impressive physiques but it was far more impressive that they powerlifted. These two bodybuilders did powerlifting proud by doing a push/pull to prove who was the WSBB. Let's support them.

All the more impressive is that they actually got their bench shirts on. LMAO Job well done to both.

Anonymous wrote:
It does not change the outcome of the event whatsoever, but Ben White did get up a 670 something deadlift, but got off balance at the top and dropped it.
Props to Johnnie Jackson for a huge deadlift!

He tried and stumbled with 637 lbs.

Carl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Did they wear gear or were they raw?

You're kidding, aren't you ?

I wasn't kidding...it was more like a rhetorical question. For bodybuilders, these two are strong but obviously not the strongest. Stan beat them both wearing just a singlet and a t-shirt. Hell, he didn't even wear a belt during the deadlift. Stan is not only the strongest bodybuilder but one of the strongest powerlifters today.

Video is posted here.

When Stan comes out and talks smack, it's classic.

Johnnie Jackson vs. Stan Efferding would be an awesome battle, much closer than this blowout.

Jlinteris wrote:
For being 275 pounds of juiced out muscle (or whatever White weighs) 633 pounds is a completely embarassing pull. I would never open my mouth to shit talk if I had a 633 pound pull and was directing my attention towards Jackson and Efferding. Sure his bench is good but being the strongest is a lot more than bench.

Yeah for sure. There are arounf 4 or 5 guys alone at my gym that weigh 50 pounds less than White and pull 635-700 belt only singles. Having 275 pounds of ripped muscle and pulling 633 is absolutely disgusting. Yeah he went up to 670, that too is brutal. It isnt like Efferding and Jackson are a little ahead when it comes to a movement where full body power is involoved, but they are lightyears ahead. If he is 275 pounds and only pulls 633, he will never in his life catch them. He is all show no go. Efferding is a bad bad man!

Jason Burns wrote:
Jlinteris wrote:
For being 275 pounds of juiced out muscle (or whatever White weighs) 633 pounds is a completely embarassing pull. I would never open my mouth to shit talk if I had a 633 pound pull and was directing my attention towards Jackson and Efferding. Sure his bench is good but being the strongest is a lot more than bench.

Yeah for sure. There are arounf 4 or 5 guys alone at my gym that weigh 50 pounds less than White and pull 635-700 belt only singles. Having 275 pounds of ripped muscle and pulling 633 is absolutely disgusting. Yeah he went up to 670, that too is brutal. It isnt like Efferding and Jackson are a little ahead when it comes to a movement where full body power is involoved, but they are lightyears ahead. If he is 275 pounds and only pulls 633, he will never in his life catch them. He is all show no go. Efferding is a bad bad man!

Agreed. White= Weak. Bottom line.

So....Stan wore less gear than either of these two guys AND STILL lifted more, even AFTER an injury....

Ben/Johnnie, what's this say about who really IS the strongest? No more videos where you do everything BUT squatting, benching, and deadlifting, and no more phone calls where you talk smack....Either you guys should lift against Stan or shut the hell up!

Marcus Williams just pulled 605 raw @148 pounds. Now look at Ben White. 633 @ 275. Yeah he sucks. Pound for pound he is about as strong as my grandparents.

Hey White if you read this, save your breath. You are going to need it for your blowup date!

"White was able to muster a 633 pound effort."

hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha "World's Strongest Bodybuilder" hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Anonymous wrote:
Marcus Williams just pulled 605 raw @148 pounds. Now look at Ben White. 633 @ 275. Yeah he sucks. Pound for pound he is about as strong as my grandparents.

Hey White if you read this, save your breath. You are going to need it for your blowup date!

Holy shit that is Putt Houston type of good material.

What did they squat? I missed those numbers. Whats that? They sbustituted 12lb concentration "mirror" curls "for reps" for the squat?....

Ahhhh! That is why they were so fatigued for the deadlift.

Seriously, shouldn't two middle tier Pro-bodybuilders pretending to powerlift during the "Olympia" weekend be better called the "Special Olympia"? Cause that is how retarded this all sounds!

How many Powerlifters can out lift these guys with out all the equipment for real, you guys who put them down sound so stupid. Most people can not put up those numbers Stan yes but not that many of us.

Anonymous wrote:
Johnnie Jackson vs. Stan Efferding would be an awesome battle, much closer than this blowout.

I've met Johnnie and like him a lot. And he has proven several time that he is a very good powerlifter as well as a great bodybuilder; but unless he can raw squat somewhere between 872 to 900 lbs. that head to head would not be very close either. Good lifting Johnnie, but in my book, Stan is the WSBB!

theres people posting on here who probably weigh 275+ and cannot pull 600+ ...

Good that they brought the sports together. Sad that 2 threads on PL.com talking about Jackson VS White and nothing about the USPF D1/D2 meet.

Forget this goofy bodybuilding stuff.

WHEN will the USPF have their results up for the full powerlifting? How did Michael Schwanke and April Delmore do?

Anonymous wrote:
theres people posting on here who probably weigh 275+ and cannot pull 600+ ...

23. Chris Weaver USAPL 2009-04-05 677

I pulled 716 at the USAPL Deadlift Nationals in Miami in July but it's not up for some reason. 275 class. Competing in a competition calling yourself the world's strongest bber and only pulling <700 is sad.

CWeaver225 wrote:

23. Chris Weaver USAPL 2009-04-05 677

I pulled 716 at the USAPL Deadlift Nationals in Miami in July but it's not up for some reason. 275 class.

Hey, Chris, here's info from the USAPL "Results" page. Either contact the meet director or the USAPL webmaster about getting results posted.

"NOTE: These are the meet results as I have received them from the meet director(s). If you have questions about the results or do not see a particular meet listed here, please contact the meet director(s) directly. If a meet is not listed, it is because I have not received the results to place them here. If the person(s) are not listed there, please call the USAPL National Office at (260) 248-4889 for additional help."

http://www.usapowerlifting.com/results/index.shtml

E. J. wrote:
CWeaver225 wrote:

23. Chris Weaver USAPL 2009-04-05 677

I pulled 716 at the USAPL Deadlift Nationals in Miami in July but it's not up for some reason. 275 class.

Hey, Chris, here's info from the USAPL "Results" page. Either contact the meet director or the USAPL webmaster about getting results posted.

"NOTE: These are the meet results as I have received them from the meet director(s). If you have questions about the results or do not see a particular meet listed here, please contact the meet director(s) directly. If a meet is not listed, it is because I have not received the results to place them here. If the person(s) are not listed there, please call the USAPL National Office at (260) 248-4889 for additional help."

http://www.usapowerlifting.com/results/index.shtml

Thanks. I tried contacting the meet director but I think he forgot about them again. I'll try emailing again.

This whole thing seems staged. All the hoopla leading up to this contest and then the powers that be just happen to let Stan up here to interupt? Ha, I doubt that. We've been suckered by Stan, Johnnie and Ben. Can anyone say WWE staged drama!

That was awesome! A lot like pro-rasslin'! Fun stuff!

E. J. wrote:
Video is posted here.

When Stan comes out and talks smack, it's classic.

ben got a strong bench

jonnie got a strong deadlift

stan is strong at all 3

Jonnie the strongest shrugger! Not ProBodybuilder, stan is just way to elite

Didnt White say he was going for almost 800 dead? and 606+ bench? He was far of the deadlift, and of the bench as well.

BBersRgay! wrote:
Did you know that in a gallop poll that 89% of body builders are gay… It’s true I read it on the internet. ;) Way to go Stan!

I saw that...It also had 79% of powerlifters as GAY, and 99% were FAT!

What the hell is that thing on Ben White's face? Is he trying to be Abraham Lincoln? It's a little early for Halloween, Ben.

why are people talking crap about ben. he missed 600 by an inch in a shirt that looks like it gives fuck all support.
ben has just came off 2 pro shows. and was still able to muster up a big bench. sure hes not a big deadlifter. but every attempt he did he made look easy. he had his last deadlift easy, he just lost balance.
most of the fatass powerifters on this site couldnt put up bens numbers.
ben looks like hes good for 680-700 on the pull.

I'm a sensory panelist for a local food processor. I guess I'm the Worlds Strongest Taste Tester(WSTT)hahhahhahhaaaaa. Is this going to be a new PL division or a new fed WSBB?
www.Ryanopower.com
www.AndersonPowerlifting.com

Johnnie Jackson lifted great, and im gunno let u finish but Stan Efferding had the best totals of all time! ALL TIME!

great for the sport to see Stan up there talking smack and great for Super Training for helping get this out there...really is embarassing though considering I know ppl who have had push pulls at 1155 who have only been powerlifting for a year and only weigh 242....cant wait to see Stan blow johnnnie out the water and also win the Ironman Classic

Gordon Lake wrote:
great for the sport to see Stan up there talking smack and great for Super Training for helping get this out there...really is embarassing though considering I know ppl who have had push pulls at 1155 who have only been powerlifting for a year and only weigh 242....cant wait to see Stan blow johnnnie out the water and also win the Ironman Classic

Push/pull of 1155 after one year of PL is incredible! Have these poeple been lifting weights more than a year? Taking drugs more than a year?

I'm going to go out on a limb here regarding Stan....I was very impressed. The guy is pretty sincere sounding, even when trash talking, and his lifts were very strongly done. While Cole had to walk the weight out and didn't use a monolift, Stan was pretty strict looking on all attempts. If anything Stan is still learning having only done a few full meets. He still seems to have room to spare and he probably will continue to only get better. I can see the guy going 850-615-850 in the not too distant future as a 275#er raw.
I was surprised by Jackson's bench, even with the shirt...I didn't think he could muster 500# raw in the bench and likely those old style shirts aren't good for more than about 25-30#. White was disappointing even in the bench. While just missing 600# with a shirt, I expected him to do much higher, at least 630-640 with a shirt and a 700# deadlift. Too bad Eddie Robinson doesn't compete or lift anymore (just kidding). In any event Stan is the man. Using a standard "walk out squat" what was the highest raw 275# total? I know Tom Hardman went 2100 via 750-600-750. Didn't Lee Moran put up something bis as a 275#er?

Chuck Mirabile wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here regarding Stan....I was very impressed. The guy is pretty sincere sounding, even when trash talking, and his lifts were very strongly done. While Cole had to walk the weight out and didn't use a monolift, Stan was pretty strict looking on all attempts. If anything Stan is still learning having only done a few full meets. He still seems to have room to spare and he probably will continue to only get better. I can see the guy going 850-615-850 in the not too distant future as a 275#er raw.
I was surprised by Jackson's bench, even with the shirt...I didn't think he could muster 500# raw in the bench and likely those old style shirts aren't good for more than about 25-30#. White was disappointing even in the bench. While just missing 600# with a shirt, I expected him to do much higher, at least 630-640 with a shirt and a 700# deadlift. Too bad Eddie Robinson doesn't compete or lift anymore (just kidding). In any event Stan is the man. Using a standard "walk out squat" what was the highest raw 275# total? I know Tom Hardman went 2100 via 750-600-750. Didn't Lee Moran put up something bis as a 275#er?

Chuck,

Hugh Cassidy won the first ever IPF worlds with 800-570-790 = 2160 raw - knee sleeves only and no belt. They did not have a 275 class back then and I believe Cassidy was 280 to 285 at that time btu may have been 275.

Hugh Cassidy was amazing...and the guy looked like nothing...he appeared more like a plumber than a lifter but he was unbelievably strong. Reminds me that Kuc must have been pretty close to 2200 as a 275#er also. I think Stan has the potential to really make some noise putting up some "all time" numbers. Cole never seemed to duplicate his big numbers in big meets if I recall correctly. Doug Young used to get annoyed when people talked about Cole's lifting....I recall someone saying that they were talking about Cole around Young and he said, "Well he never beat me!" I don't think Young ever did any full meets as a 275#er, even though he had the bench record before Hardman and later Arcidi took it away. Tom did all three lifts, but Arcidi was just a bencher. Even though Moran wasn't a deadlifter, I think he did do at least 700# as a 275#er and was around 900 in the squat and 600 in the bench.

Chuck Mirabile wrote:
Hugh Cassidy was amazing...and the guy looked like nothing...he appeared more like a plumber than a lifter but he was unbelievably strong. Reminds me that Kuc must have been pretty close to 2200 as a 275#er also. I think Stan has the potential to really make some noise putting up some "all time" numbers. Cole never seemed to duplicate his big numbers in big meets if I recall correctly. Doug Young used to get annoyed when people talked about Cole's lifting....I recall someone saying that they were talking about Cole around Young and he said, "Well he never beat me!" I don't think Young ever did any full meets as a 275#er, even though he had the bench record before Hardman and later Arcidi took it away. Tom did all three lifts, but Arcidi was just a bencher. Even though Moran wasn't a deadlifter, I think he did do at least 700# as a 275#er and was around 900 in the squat and 600 in the bench.

Cassidy probably looked like that because he focused on being strong and not on hypertrophy work like many of us who began training in the 80s. I think lifters are coming back around to this kind of training - after all, getting strong is not rocket science!

A very hollow victory. Forgive my ignorance but, why wasn't Efferding included ? I mean, if I want the title of world's best at anything,I'd want the level of competition there that would help me to prove it and lend legitimacy to that title.

Body builders are like kit car exteriors with a volkswagen engine. Powerlifters are the muscle cars with kick ass engines. Say what you want but no one gives a crap about your window dressing. Remember when the BBs used to try out ESPN's Strongest Man competitions. They were a friggin bunch of panzy jokes.

Roger Ryan wrote:
I'm a sensory panelist for a local food processor. I guess I'm the Worlds Strongest Taste Tester(WSTT)hahhahhahhaaaaa. Is this going to be a new PL division or a new fed WSBB?
www.Ryanopower.com
www.AndersonPowerlifting.com

very funny. Of course it's not like bodybuilding has anything in common with powerlifting. It's not like both require discipline, hard work, and lifting weights ;)

Carl wrote:
A very hollow victory. Forgive my ignorance but, why wasn't Efferding included ? I mean, if I want the title of world's best at anything,I'd want the level of competition there that would help me to prove it and lend legitimacy to that title.

because stan only won his pro card recently and this whole thing was set up far in advance of that and Stan has yet to compete as a pro.

Plus not letting him compete sets up the interest for next year

Larry wrote:
Body builders are like kit car exteriors with a volkswagen engine. Powerlifters are the muscle cars with kick ass engines. Say what you want but no one gives a crap about your window dressing. Remember when the BBs used to try out ESPN's Strongest Man competitions. They were a friggin bunch of panzy jokes.

Of course Larry, because there are absolutely no strong bodybuilders

I'm sure that half the people posting on here are probably overweight wannabe heavy lifters who couldn't even match the same body weight to weight lifted ratio as these guys. So i'll start with this: SHUT THE F@CK UP!!! JOJ is listed as pound for pound wsbb, so yeah Stan is pretty impressive at what 275? JOJ has pulled 800+ in a bb contest prep mode when he's weaker at a weight of something like 225. Props to both JOJ and Efferding for being strong as hell, unless you can match their ratios, just shut up and lift! Ben White? should learn to keep his mouth shut as a rookie.