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Efferding vs White

What started out with Stan Efferding calling out Johnnie Jackson and Ben White after begin denied a place in the meet that is supposed to determine the world's strongest Pro bodybuilder, the Duel in the Desert at the Olympia, has now escalated with a Heavy Muscle Radio interview with Efferding. That interview prompted Ben White to call in to the show with his response.

White says he is benching 500 pounds and deadlifting 600 pounds for reps in training for the meet.

Efferding's interview starts at 47:27 of the broadcast.

Stan Efferding interview.
Ben White's response.

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Ben White is a complete tool

Stan is calling them out, I understand that, but it is all in good competition and I think that he could win. Ben on the other hand is being a complete and total ass. What the hell is his problem. He is acting like such a child...oh, he is wearing knee wraps... shut the hell up.

I have a lot of respect for Ben, but I'm pretty sure that Stan's much stronger overall. Ben's always had a great bench, but I just don't see him beating Stan in the SQ or DL. Ben claims to be using 700 in training for the DL, but Stan has officially hit 800+ in competition. Moreover, Stan's 850 raw squat is probably well beyond what Ben could do. As for the bench....It might actually be close between the two, but a full contest between the two could only have one result: STAN WINS!

I found the Ben White clip entertaining and hilarious. He might not have the numbers to beat Stan but he beats him in smack talk.

Just seems to me they are trying to force there way into something that they weren't invited to or nor is it about them. If he wasn't invited maybe there was a reason.

Anonymous wrote:
Just seems to me they are trying to force there way into something that they weren't invited to or nor is it about them. If he wasn't invited maybe there was a reason.

there is a reason, and ben white elluded to it in the interview talking about efferding turing pro in the masters division of the npc and the whole thing about him being a pro for a few months and retiring as a pro in a few more months. ben white and johnny jackson are big time pro bodybuilders who can win or place in very big shows. efferding is stronger than either one of them no doubt, but he's not on there level as a bodybuilder which is why he didn't get an invite to this show. the sponsors and the fans who don't powerlift are interested in who the strongest big name pro bodybuilder is simple as that, they're not looking for someone that the average fan has never heard of who happens to have a pro card and is ridiculously strong. now all that being said i'd love to see stan show up with $10k in hand and kick ass.

Ben White freakin rules! He may have a sub-80 iq, but I like his attitude. "I don't even think about it, they say pick it up and I say yessur, boss..."His ebonic smack talking and general nonsense and shenanigans hat my fat belly shaking like a bowl full of jelly.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Just seems to me they are trying to force there way into something that they weren't invited to or nor is it about them. If he wasn't invited maybe there was a reason.

there is a reason, and ben white elluded to it in the interview talking about efferding turing pro in the masters division of the npc and the whole thing about him being a pro for a few months and retiring as a pro in a few more months. ben white and johnny jackson are big time pro bodybuilders who can win or place in very big shows. efferding is stronger than either one of them no doubt, but he's not on there level as a bodybuilder which is why he didn't get an invite to this show. the sponsors and the fans who don't powerlift are interested in who the strongest big name pro bodybuilder is simple as that, they're not looking for someone that the average fan has never heard of who happens to have a pro card and is ridiculously strong. now all that being said i'd love to see stan show up with $10k in hand and kick ass.

I agree that's why he's not in it, but the fact remains that they are trying to find the "strongest pro bodybuilder", no the strongest big name pro bodybuilder...so stan should be in it. I hope he does face them eventually cuz it will be no contest. Besides, if you want to be called the strongest...then SQUAT!! Ben White refuses to...even Johnnie Jackson called him out on that

WHO IS BEN?HE JUST MADE AN ASS OF HIMSELf! I THINK THE ONLY REASON WHY STAN IS NOT THERE IS NOT TO MOCK THOSE 2 BODYBULIDERS IN FRONT OF A BIG SHOW THAT IS THERE GAME

I think its racism! 2 black competitors and no white ones? the only white in the competition is ben's last name! RACISM!

ridiculous. bb's calling each other out on strength lol. if the guy wins the bb comp, he's a good bb.

it's like us picking the best looking shw PL guy and proclaiming we're holding a prettiest PL bb'er wannabe comp or something.

bb should stick to being pretty and knock off the nonsense. until somebody shows he can win both the olympia bb and the ipf worlds in PL (or APF with all the russians etc in it) then they should knock off the "strength" chat lol.

or maybe a bb wins olympia and beats mariuz in WSM? then I'll listen.

I think the whole thing is stupid. Strongest body builder, bullshit. The poster above is right, I personally think all federations should now have the prettiest Powerlifter every year and hold it on the Beach some where. No one cares, all they are doing is trying to build hype for there little show. and Stan is fueling the fire. All Stan has to do is post some bigger numbers some where and when they have there little meet and there numbers are smaller than his and they try to claim that they are the strongest, well then the whole world will know better. He dont have to be in that event to beat them, he only has to be in that event to get paid for it.

ben white is gonna get his ass kicked twice. first by johnnie and then by stan

I'm calling it now, I am the prettiest powerlifter in the world. I'll even squat in my thong to prove it, my testicles will be rock bottom.

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Ben sounded really ignorant in that interview. What he said about Stan's powerlifting total made NO sense at all.

C'mon. Grow a sense of humor.

To me, having spent a lot of time in the gym busting balls Ben sounds like a guy who would be a riot to hang out with.

His comment about building a zoo was classic.

Self-promotion, baby. Self-promotion.

If you don't believe in yourself, what's left?

Im the prettiest power lifter by bar!

Anonymous wrote:
ridiculous. bb's calling each other out on strength lol. if the guy wins the bb comp, he's a good bb.

it's like us picking the best looking shw PL guy and proclaiming we're holding a prettiest PL bb'er wannabe comp or something.

bb should stick to being pretty and knock off the nonsense. until somebody shows he can win both the olympia bb and the ipf worlds in PL (or APF with all the russians etc in it) then they should knock off the "strength" chat lol.

or maybe a bb wins olympia and beats mariuz in WSM? then I'll listen.

ah, I see, so you can't say anything about strength until you are Mr. Olympia and have won IPF worlds.

that is the most ludicrous load of shit i've ever heard. Efferding is a great bodybuilder and is a great powerlifter as well. If he wants to talk about both that's his perogative

Anonymous wrote:
I think the whole thing is stupid. Strongest body builder, bullshit. The poster above is right, I personally think all federations should now have the prettiest Powerlifter every year and hold it on the Beach some where. No one cares, all they are doing is trying to build hype for there little show. and Stan is fueling the fire. All Stan has to do is post some bigger numbers some where and when they have there little meet and there numbers are smaller than his and they try to claim that they are the strongest, well then the whole world will know better. He dont have to be in that event to beat them, he only has to be in that event to get paid for it.

i love how you call it "their little show" when was the last time that any powerlifter won $10K in a push pull meet or anything else for that matter? and for everyone saying that these guys should stick to bodybuilding and leave strength to the powerlifters how many 275lbers do you guys think can out total these two raw? certainly there are some but i'd guess not too many, these two don't train for strength primarily are legitimately strong anyway. give some respect where it's due.

Ben White was hilarious lol!

-Abe Harrod

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I think the whole thing is stupid. Strongest body builder, bullshit. The poster above is right, I personally think all federations should now have the prettiest Powerlifter every year and hold it on the Beach some where. No one cares, all they are doing is trying to build hype for there little show. and Stan is fueling the fire. All Stan has to do is post some bigger numbers some where and when they have there little meet and there numbers are smaller than his and they try to claim that they are the strongest, well then the whole world will know better. He dont have to be in that event to beat them, he only has to be in that event to get paid for it.

i love how you call it "their little show" when was the last time that any powerlifter won $10K in a push pull meet or anything else for that matter? and for everyone saying that these guys should stick to bodybuilding and leave strength to the powerlifters how many 275lbers do you guys think can out total these two raw? certainly there are some but i'd guess not too many, these two don't train for strength primarily are legitimately strong anyway. give some respect where it's due.

For your info: 2 people in a contest is a (little show) as far as how many powerlifters in there weight can beat them, well first lets see what numbers they really can lift and then to answer your question just go to the lifters rankings right here on this web site and see for yourself.
We dont care how they train they are the ones trying to claim the glory. I would give respect if I thought any was due but in all honesty none is due, they havent done anything yet, in our world gym lifts don't count for shit. They want respect go back to the BB stage or earn it on our platform. Lastly claiming to the worlds strongest BB and they are not even going to SQUAT, give us a break. Powerlifter Squat, even Stan know that.
Kids can even Bench and Deadlift.

It was said that it was just an on going thing between Ben and Johnny, well thats cool but:
1. Why pump it up like it is the event of the year.
2. Why pay 10,000
3. Why don't they just go out back behind the barn and settle it.
I bet there is even more BBers besides Stan that can beat them all day long and then to pay like they are even stronger than most all Powerlifters in the weight class. That sir is nothing more than a mouth trying to get someone to watch.

Just for starters the Pro Am pays out twice that every year. I bet neither one of them will show up there and try there luck but I am sure you have a good excuse for that too.
Get back on stage and leave the lifting to the Powerlifters. Just for your records a 275er pulling in the 600's or even low 700's really isn't that good.

Put up or shut up usually works for me!
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Anonymous wrote:
Just for starters the Pro Am pays out twice that every year. I bet neither one of them will show up there and try there luck but I am sure you have a good excuse for that too.
Get back on stage and leave the lifting to the Powerlifters. Just for your records a 275er pulling in the 600's or even low 700's really isn't that good.
but it doesn't pay out ten grand to a single lifter does it?

pro is pro and raw is raw. did you see stans 825 deadlift? ben, bring your briefcase, you too will have to pull and when the smoke clears you will be minus a brief case!

THIS WHOLE THREAD IS AS GAY AS BODYBUILDING IS!!!!!

Stan is going to hand Ben his ass! I'm sure Ben will keep laughing until he hands Stan that 10,000$. It won't be such a joke then.

sqbpdl wrote:
I found the Ben White clip entertaining and hilarious. He might not have the numbers to beat Stan but he beats him in smack talk.

the guy is an incoherent babbling idiot! nothin he said made sense and every time Raomano steered the conversation towards Stans PL numbers, that idiot kept talking about bodybuilding. Sure hes a great bodybuilder, but stan would wipe the floor with his ass in PL meet. its a good thing that guy can make a living lifting eweights, cause im uncertain whether he could get by doing much else b/c he is seriously lacking upstairs.

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The meet is being promoted to the bodybuilding crowd. It is being promoted as a grudge match. They are paying nice $ to the winner and even the loser gets $2500. A pretty good deal if you ask me.

As to the thread being gay, what is that all about?

Chris

I had to turn off the Ben White interview a little after halfway. There's only so long I can stand to listen to a stupid asshole brag about himself and dodge the subject when the talk show host repeatedly mentioned Stan's legitimate numbers in raw PL meets. Ben White would just sing and act snazzy which was irritating as hell. Ben White couldn't shine Stan's shoes. He's part of the ignoramus brigade.

Anonymous wrote:
sqbpdl wrote:
I found the Ben White clip entertaining and hilarious. He might not have the numbers to beat Stan but he beats him in smack talk.

the guy is an incoherent babbling idiot! nothin he said made sense and every time Raomano steered the conversation towards Stans PL numbers, that idiot kept talking about bodybuilding. Sure hes a great bodybuilder, but stan would wipe the floor with his ass in PL meet. its a good thing that guy can make a living lifting eweights, cause im uncertain whether he could get by doing much else b/c he is seriously lacking upstairs.

I didn't say he made a coherent argument that he could beat stan's numbers. I just said he was funny and talked a good game eventhough some of it made no sense. He was also probably inebriated on something during it as the hosts mentioned.

Sean Katterle wrote:
chris mason wrote:
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The meet is being promoted to the bodybuilding crowd. It is being promoted as a grudge match. They are paying nice $ to the winner and even the loser gets $2500. A pretty good deal if you ask me.

As to the thread being gay, what is that all about?

Chris

I know huh. It must be an ego defense technique to call bodybuilding "gay". Anyone who lives in a community with a lot of single adult people know that the guys who are visibly muscular, lean(er) and well groomed get more hook up opportunities with women than the guys who aren't. So, it's funny to me that some guys who can't cut it in the highly body concious physique world try and label the more fitness conscious guys as being gay. Gay is being sexually attracted to other men. Gay is not banging more chicks and attracting more girls than the outta condition guys do. I'm not saying this as a fitness snob, because I wear a 38 waist jeans so I'm hardly ripped, but I'm also not gonna act jealous and call my buddies with six pack abs and well preserved tans "gay".

they hilarious thing is all the people on here calling those 3 'gay' probably could put up half of their total in a meet

THIS IS A POWERLIFTING FORUM NOT A BODYBUILDING FORUM!!!!!! AND YES ONCE AGAIN TALKING ABOUT WHO LOOKS BETTER IN A SPEEDO IS GAY!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm not saying this as a fitness snob, because I wear a 38 waist jeans so I'm hardly ripped, but I'm also not gonna act jealous and call my buddies with six pack abs and well preserved tans "gay".

I was wondering which leg you wear those 38 jeans on? :)

POWERLIFTER wrote:
THIS IS A POWERLIFTING FORUM NOT A BODYBUILDING FORUM!!!!!! AND YES ONCE AGAIN TALKING ABOUT WHO LOOKS BETTER IN A SPEEDO IS GAY!!!!!!!!!!

strong insecurity

Bodybuilding is like the snazzy kit cars built on a volkswagen chassis and engine. Powerlifting is like a GTO on a serious muscle car engine. I've watched the clown BB's try Strongest Man through the years, and they get humiliated. Mario Pudjanowski would f@@K up White and Jackson and then kick their ass on a BB stage. Power always rules!!!

no he would not.

Mariuz would win at strongman. Jackson would win at bodybuilding.

Hope that helps

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Unbelievable a powerlifting forum talking about a bunch of GAY body builders.who cares they are gay and i don't mean in a happy way