Video of BPC British Squats

The second lifter Lee, did notstp helping people all day myself included. Top guy !!!!

sorry, was it Mike Sweeney at 4.09? i mean does he travel to EVERY meet in europe or?

I few thoughts on this video.

-rookie spotter in the white T needs to chill out, he cost that guy a good lift.

-This meet looked badass! If i didnt think multiply was cheesy I would love to lift at a meet like this.

Who knows if the guy was really stuck or could have powered through that lift, but the spotter in white of the entire crew on the right needed knocked out. I would have bitched after the lift too. Why the hell did they jump on the bar so damn fast.

Thats funny you think multiply is cheesy. I am sure you think getting 150 lbs out of a single ply bench shirt and or squat suit is legit and "holier than thou" in your mind. lol

wrong again chris smith.

I get about 30lbs out of my titan centurion and about 30 out of my wraps. And I get about 75lbs out of my shirt. And I deadlift raw with ugly form, so that actually gives me a -30lbs.

Im just saying its really disgusting when a guy cant squat 625 raw, but he can put on a multiply squat suit and do upwards of 1000 pounds. Multi ply isnt for me, so what ever. Not to mention the 300lbs you can get out of a bullet proof shirt now days. But this isnt a debate over single ply vs. Multi. And im not bashing any lifter, just the gear. So go figure.

I call bullshit, nobody gets under 100bs out of a tight centurion, NOBODY. I have competed in singleply for years and this is just fucking bullshit. I have seen people getting 300lbs out of a singleply squatsuit. Yes you can get alot out of multiply, but you dont get 300lbs out of a shirt without YEARS of training.

The guy made a mistake, it happens. I thought the spotters did a great job. They were prepared and ready for each lift.

You fools are amazing. Spotting sucks because they don't catch a 1000 pound drop or spotting sucks because someone errored on the side of caution.

where's the video of andy bolton dumping that squat?

I know of many lighter International lifters who get significantly less than 100lbs out of a centurion.

Obviously mistakes happen, but the lifter should clearly have been given the attempt again. Did this happen?

J. Hernandez,
So now what you lift raw is considered -30 lbs?? Wow. That's some strange thinking, in my opinion. The only reason I responded was because of the "multiply being cheesy" dig that was said. I think we all can agree that gear adds pounds to your lifts. I am leaving it at that. Either you lift raw or you're a gear whore. No in betweens. Have a nice day.

Theres a big difference from using gear, to being a gear whore.

Just because you simply say "there is no in between" doesnt mean shit.

The -30 was a joke, and you can leave it at whatever you want I dont give s shit. Bottom line is that powerlifting will NEVER be a legit olypic game until the 10lbs of fabric and 100 federations are lost. Have a nice day.

I got a little more than 80 lbs out of my single ply centurion and wraps

Well I hit 744 at USAPL Jr. nationals, so I know I can squat. The straps werent tight, and i had to hike the legs up like they were underwear just so I could hit depth. But your right, I've never had a squat suit that was just great. If I could get 150lbs carry over I'd be over 825, but like I said. I suck. So I just need to keep training.

From my experience judging, spot loading, and running meets, your statement on the spotter jumping too fast is stupid. When you come any of our meets, you will sign a liability release and get no spotters.

Even at raw meets, we err on the safe side. As a head judge, I had a deadlifter put the bar down because he could not quite lock it out and the bar was on his finger tips. He was going to dump 750 pounds onto his knees. He first bitched, but after watching the video, he realized I saved his knees.

As for spotting, for raw lifting, we grab the bar as soon as it clearly dips. For geared lifters, especially multiply, I would exercise even more caution. It is a lot easier to catch an almost stationary weight then a rapidly descending weight after a dump (look at the Ed Koo video from the USPF Nats). Who knows what the spotter saw, maybe the bar dipped slightly, or from experience, realized that when the lifter got stuck like he did, real good chance of a dump. Lifter does not know, the bar got lighter when the spotters took it. I have noticed geared lifters can fail very quickly and unexpectily. Over 700 pounds, you have to make a lot of fast decisions.

Spot loading is the second least thankfull job at a meet (after judging). The safety of the lifters almost rests entirely on the spotters. Either shut your mouth, or maybe even try spotting, oh better not, you probably will just run when a lifter fails with 405 pounds.

I agree if the the lifter felt the spotter was too quick, and the judges saw no bar dip or anything else that would red lighted, should be given a retry.

John Polak

Hernandez u are a bullshitter!

Please post a video of u squatting 680 with belt only.

The super centurion and katana add minimum 250lbs to total and at least 200 if worn loose.

Ok, what ever you say. I mean, it may not be the USAPL, but I have my college teams squat record and its a raw 640. So, I guess I could go ahead and video tape a 680 just for you.

BTW---That looked like an awesome meet and Bolton is my hero!

Well put Smitty. Trying to compare one over the other is just ridiculous

The only thing ridiculous is the amount of ply's you can use.

Travis, I think your opinion is a little biased. Because if you use a standard amount of reason you will see the comparison between the two is night and day. On one hand you have a single ply world record squat of 1036, and then with multi ply you have the world record at 1250. I wont even get into the whole depth+monolift argument. But I think most will agree that all gear (even single ply) is getting ridiculous. And the main battle now isn't who is stronger, but rather who can manipulate the gear to get the most out of it, that's not how power lifting should be.

I love this sport but that fact that there are like 20+ 1,000lbs squatters in the last year and a half (guessed on that, could be more, could be a little less) is testament more to technology rather than strength. Again, im not knocking individuals who lift multiply, just the gear. Its getting out of hand. And really its our society..... I mean we all want bigger numbers, shit even I dream of squatting a grand.

My point is, even if you train your ass off in the gear to manipulate it for maximum effectiveness, its unbelievable and seems almost wrong that one could add 400lbs to your bench with a triple ply grid stitched, Velcro back, scooped kneck bench press shirt.

Im a firm believer in freedom of choice, everybody can choose for themselves which federation they want to lift in and how many plies they want to wear, im not trying to change anyones opinions, just defend my own. So please, Travis, or anyone, if you can change my opinion on the matter feel free to do so. I am not an asshole who wont admit when im wrong, for Christs sake, I'll eat crow. But chances are, i'll just get biased non informative opinions from pissed off multiply guys, thanks for reading. I hope I made sense, I mean.... in my head I made sense.

Jesse Hernandez

I actually looked it up. Current Multiply ranking from 220 to 308+ is 39.......

39 1000+ squats in the last year alone.

Forget the gear...every one of those squats was high. As for the lifter bitching...the bar regressed and the spotter caught it like he should have. Besides, it doesn't matter because he was 6 inches high!

And how is it that you are unbiased and everyone else is biased Jesse?

I've lifted in the USAPL, APF, UPA and IPA as well as the RUM so tell me how I"m biased Jesse.

Have you lifted multiply or are you just a guy who likes to rip on it without experience in it?

Who says it's wrong to get 400lbs out of a bench shirt? (which you're talking like 3-4 of lifters are capable of doing so it's pretty much a moot point) But if someone trains their technique enough, why should someone else say "you can't do that, you're technique needs to be worse so you don't get that much out of your shirt/suit"

What drives me nuts sometimes is you don't see the guys in multiply feds getting on here saying how raw lifting should be banned, or everyone who lifts raw is just too lazy to learn gear or everyone who lifts raw has terrible technique.

If you don't like multiply lifting, that's fine. Guess what, nobody is forcing you to lift in it. But I do find it ironic that you try and get the most out of your bench shirt and squat suiit, but just rip on others who get more than you do. It comes across as jealousy. Nobody forced you to go to a meet with gear that was too big, that was your choice.

When it comes down to it, you are representing yourself as someone who thinks they are better than everyone else who lifts in gear, not because you lift raw, but because your gear sucks. That doesn't seem ridiculous to you?

Not everybody gets those sort of gains.

I know of an recent IPF World Champion who only gets around 82.5lbs from the squat suit and 44lbs from a bench shirt

Jesse,

I for one would like to see a raw 680 squat. Can you video tape that, and send it to redcav04@neo.tamu.edu

Thanks,
Dave Webb

Or put it up on youtube and post a link to it?

how much can andy squat raw? i know is raw deadlift is around 900, which is damn impressive, but he cant bench 700 with a shirt, so how much can he do raw on the bench as well?

lol raw lifts eh?

deadlift- 947 raw just belt
squat- 750 raw belt
bench- 495

dont do much raw tho no point

andy b

Im not biased because im not simple minded. I will look at all sides of the argument. Jealousy? Im not jealous about multi ply numbers, i dont think im better than anyone. I've said it before... I suck. But you've seemed to ignore some of my key points that i've discussed.

Why would the guys in multiply bitch? LMAO, would you bitch if you were getting gifts and hitting 1/4 high squats and having them called good? No, you would keep your mouth shut, like most do.

only 4 people get 400lbs out of a bench shirt? If thats true, which I dont believe it is. Then the number skyrockets of people who can get 300lbs out of a shirt.

P.S I'll see what I can do about the video, ive taken a break recently but i'll hit 650 raw no problem, is anyone gonna bitch about 30lbs?

those where all failures , right ?

2:45 whats the funky tune called?

Wow your getting some great carryover.... prolly worse then the old marathon. YOu sure your using a centurion?

Why would the be? It's just like the prick who said they were all 6 inches high. Some were failures and some weren't, -I was side ref. You can tell they were all failures from some video footage taken from below and the front? You obviously have your own issues that make you a hater, but please don't pretend it's some kind of experience or expertise.