Lifters Ready for USPF Nationals

Submitted by bill & april (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 11:23am. » quote

Look at that face on April when she sets that bar down! :)

It is an honor to workout with Bob, Bob, April and all of the rest at World Gym.
All the best, guys!

Submitted by Dan Varela on July 3, 2009 - 12:36pm. » quote

That's some great pulling from the two Bobs, very inspirering. They could show the kids a thing or two.

Submitted by D.J. (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 12:39pm. » quote

best of luck to all

bob gaynor....WOW what a deadlifter unbelievable

Submitted by Marcus on July 3, 2009 - 2:06pm. » quote

Thanks for the posting this! I hurt my shoulder and won't be lifting.

Becky went 3/3 on squats. She set an 11lb PR with 297.

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Submitted by dgunnermuro on July 3, 2009 - 7:12pm. » quote

Lots of bombs already...

Submitted by Marcus on July 3, 2009 - 8:04pm. » quote

Becky went 297, 208, and 319 for 826 and USPF elite. She won her weight class.

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Submitted by Ricardo Costa (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 10:11pm. » quote

So far women look good. Tanya Reed, Becky Rich, and Janet Loveall have performed!

Master men as always in the USPF, defy whatever you think humanly possible for some old men to lift! Talk crap all you want about the gear used nowadays but these old bastards can lift and lift strong.

Also a word with the refs, way to many bombs. This is a HOBBY for most, there was a hell of a lot of calls that should of went the other way, in my opinion. Purists be damned, plenty of squats were legal and not allowed to pass! I've never seen so many lifts be completed and not given white lights!

I better stop while i'm ahead. Tomorrow will be interesting. Can't wait to Earn some white lights!

Ricardo Costa

Submitted by salamander (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 10:34pm. » quote

Bob Gaynor - a dragon's dragon.

Proudly representing The Royal Family of Jack

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 10:57pm. » quote

There has been a serious amount of bombs from what I saw today. Judging has been way way way too strict. Have to agree with Costa, this is a hobby for some, a passion for others. Enforce the rules yes but damn, don't make it so that nobody can get a lift passed. The lifts that have been passed are few and far between...

Submitted by Tim"THEPEOPLESCHAMP" Bruner (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 11:09pm. » quote

WHy cry about being called high ? Look it is not rocket science, just squat down and then comeback up. It is that simple. I mean just read alot of posts about how shitty my squats are and I don't have a problem with USPF squats ?

Don't make me posts some my lifts again !

Remember this is just a hobby ? what the fuck has that got to do with squatting high ? Just shut your flap and bury it and you will like yourself in the morning.

late

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 12:30am. » quote

breaking parallel all day and still getting reds. front judge was calling high all day when one or both side judges said depth was fine. both platforms were overly strict. maybe cuz of the mike womack situation? who knows. hopefully it's not a reactionary measure

also the committee meeting was interesting "please dont post this on the internet"

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 12:35am. » quote

You all bitched about the same thing last year about the judging and the meet is even bigger this year, so you must like it or you would not have went.

don't post what on the internet?

who got the 2010 nationals bid, Columbus, Pittsburgh, Chicago, OR Rhode Island?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 12:39am. » quote

to my knowledge only PA and RI were in for 2010. chicago was for 2011 if im not mistaken. and it was RI 13-7 or something like that.

also nationals are on a different side of the continent which is maybe why people went. not like it was the same 220 people last year as this year.

and my predictions is at least 1 more bomb tomorrow by ricardo costa

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 12:55am. » quote

oh there are comments at apf & ipa meets about how not even usapl makes you squat that low?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 1:03am. » quote

RI shit what happened to WV it was posted on there web site for along time 2010 nationals in WV, just because Mccase left you are going to take it away from all the lifters that lifted in his meets Bull crap

IT WAS POSTED WV LET IT STAY IN WV, THE HOME OFFICE IS IN WV CORRECT I might be wrong but is THE USPF President from WV?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 1:16am. » quote

mike was in virginia i thought? it was between pittsburg and RI for 2010 as far as i know. and pittsburg isnt far from WV or am i mistaken in that PA and WV are border states.

Submitted by Marcus on July 4, 2009 - 2:23am. » quote

Here's video of Becky's lifting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdx-ygYtFVU

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Submitted by JC Carter on July 4, 2009 - 4:48am. » quote

Fantastic performance by Becky

Congrats

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 10:05am. » quote

The USPF Nationals are not a place to pursue a "Hobby" leave that for your local meets. To the average powerlifter the desire to compete is a result of the "passion" to more than strong - to be POWERFUL.

Any time there are humans involved in deciphering the rules on platform - there is room for error. Yes there were many red lights but we as powerlifters have 3 attempts. If you see that they are strict - go lower, pull harder, push better - don't bitch about it - just lift.

NO federation is without its flaws and no ref is perfect - we train too hard to allow one mans interpretation to ruin what we have built. This is NOT a HOBBY - but a pursuit of POWER and PASSION.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 1:49pm. » quote

Best of luck to Ken,Mary,Clay Tawzer kick ass guy's

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 2:43am. » quote

Lots of bomb outs from people that never bomb out and to be honest, if it would have been at another National that's not counting IPF or USAPL but any other Fed., they would have been good lifts. People were breaking center. people were touching under the pecks, and not belly benching, not even close. People were locking out in the deadlift while the judges said that they weren't. What the hell do they want? I AM GLAD THAT I AM HURT. I was going to enter this contest but am glad that I can't lift in it now. If I were in the single lifts tomorrow, I would open with no more than 75 to 100 lbs., make my opener and walk off the platform in protest for what they have done to the day one and day two lifters and show my support for them. It's a bad deal for them. I don't dare put my name for fear of reprisals from the judges next year. That's pretty sad I think.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 2:49am. » quote

I thought the judging was very fair. Lifters that were technically sound got there lifts passed. Those that were not got red lighted.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 10:06am. » quote

Anonymous wrote:

People were breaking center.

What the hell does "breaking center" mean?

Submitted by Greg Gator (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 11:25am. » quote

It is clear the USPF is sending a message to its lifters: no questionable lifts. Many of these bombs were questionable to the judges, regardless of what any lifter in the audience thinks. I am sure there were good lifts NOT passed.

The real problem is that lifters will be less inclined to spend money on attending the Nationals, regardless of truth of the bombs. If the perception is there that the Nationals are somehow unfair in judging and are of a different standard, the USPF has done itself a real disservice for future Nationals attendance, whether or not, the judging was actually unfair.

I have no problem with strict judging anywhere. But it is obvious some lifters have lifted in other meets and the judging wasn't the same there, or there wouldn't be the bombs. The USPF should revisit judging with all judges to adopt the same standard--obviously this should be the case anyway.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 11:32am. » quote

Anonymous wrote:

People were breaking center.

What the hell does "breaking center" mean?

Good question...

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 11:46am. » quote

Anonymous wrote:

People were breaking center.

What the hell does "breaking center" mean?

Good question...

That is some dumb sh&& right there. How long has that guy been in the sport? First meet?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 11:57am. » quote

They have already said they wanted to be just like the USPLA but untested so what did you expect? Maybe if everyone complains enough they will pass all the squats on day two.

Submitted by Dan Harrison (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 7:02pm. » quote

Weird, I got 3 whites on all 3 squat attempts and 3 whites on my first two benches. I totally failed my 3rd bench and even if Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder were my judges, I would have gotten reds for that one. My deads were called fairly too.. my 2nd lift with 722 was locked out but in the video I can see a slight hitch motion at top because my L hand was opening. Not a smooth lockout: no white lights. Gear whores don't like it? Tough. Do the lifts right and don't rely on your gear and you'll be fine. I'm personally SICK of high or questionable squats getting passed so this was a breath of fresh air for me. I went raw also so yes I know it's easier to lift properly without the tight gear but still my point stands... the USPF is the KING of powerlifting feds.

Submitted by dgunnermuro on July 5, 2009 - 7:16pm. » quote

Dan Harrison wrote:

Weird, I got 3 whites on all 3 squat attempts and 3 whites on my first two benches. I totally failed my 3rd bench and even if Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder were my judges, I would have gotten reds for that one. My deads were called fairly too.. my 2nd lift with 722 was locked out but in the video I can see a slight hitch motion at top because my L hand was opening. Not a smooth lockout: no white lights. Gear whores don't like it? Tough. Do the lifts right and don't rely on your gear and you'll be fine. I'm personally SICK of high or questionable squats getting passed so this was a breath of fresh air for me. I went raw also so yes I know it's easier to lift properly without the tight gear but still my point stands... the USPF is the KING of powerlifting feds.

I completely agree with you. It was time to man up and do the lifts correctly. No one is going to see sketchy lifts passed at this meet. We had guys from our team bomb, but they owned up to it and didn't bitch. Now the whiners are tucking tail and running home saying they were singled out and screwed. Boo F'n hoo. Stop high squatting and belly benching and you'll earn the white lights.

Submitted by Edwin Lewis (not verified) on July 6, 2009 - 2:31am. » quote

I have posted a few sample videos from the July 4, 2009 competition on YouTube. Search for edwinllewis or 4stargym.

Submitted by Dan Harrison (not verified) on July 6, 2009 - 11:49am. » quote

dgunnermuro wrote:

Dan Harrison wrote:

Weird, I got 3 whites on all 3 squat attempts and 3 whites on my first two benches. I totally failed my 3rd bench and even if Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder were my judges, I would have gotten reds for that one. My deads were called fairly too.. my 2nd lift with 722 was locked out but in the video I can see a slight hitch motion at top because my L hand was opening. Not a smooth lockout: no white lights. Gear whores don't like it? Tough. Do the lifts right and don't rely on your gear and you'll be fine. I'm personally SICK of high or questionable squats getting passed so this was a breath of fresh air for me. I went raw also so yes I know it's easier to lift properly without the tight gear but still my point stands... the USPF is the KING of powerlifting feds.

I completely agree with you. It was time to man up and do the lifts correctly. No one is going to see sketchy lifts passed at this meet. We had guys from our team bomb, but they owned up to it and didn't bitch. Now the whiners are tucking tail and running home saying they were singled out and screwed. Boo F'n hoo. Stop high squatting and belly benching and you'll earn the white lights.

Yep. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that everyone who uses gear is a "gear whore". I'm just saying be careful when you get 200-300 out of your gear because it brings the margin of error down to the razor's edge. I've done geared meets and I do know how much harder it is, but the rules are still the rules. It's always a much bigger gamble the tighter your gear is. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!

Submitted by Steve Denison on July 6, 2009 - 2:13pm. » quote

Greg Gator wrote:

It is clear the USPF is sending a message to its lifters: no questionable lifts. Many of these bombs were questionable to the judges, regardless of what any lifter in the audience thinks. I am sure there were good lifts NOT passed.

The real problem is that lifters will be less inclined to spend money on attending the Nationals, regardless of truth of the bombs. If the perception is there that the Nationals are somehow unfair in judging and are of a different standard, the USPF has done itself a real disservice for future Nationals attendance, whether or not, the judging was actually unfair.

I have no problem with strict judging anywhere. But it is obvious some lifters have lifted in other meets and the judging wasn't the same there, or there wouldn't be the bombs. The USPF should revisit judging with all judges to adopt the same standard--obviously this should be the case anyway.

Nationals is in Rhode Island next year. I predict the USPF will still get a good turnout.
We will be using WPF rules at Nationals. If its perceived as too tough that may or may not keep some away. The tough ones will adjust their training to adapt to it. The USPF is not for everyone. There are other organizations out there that will pass just about anything to keep lifters around. Lifters have options. Its not about sales in the USPF. We're not in it for the money.