Keith Payne on IBP Drug Testing

Yeah sure. What is the exact number of lifters tested in the past 3 years. Which lab do you have a contract with and how many tests have been performed?

Check out the site now. The entire post has been deleted. Hmmmmmmmmmmm......

Of course the drug test results would not be made public. You cannot produce what doesn't exist. A lot of those lifters will not lift outside of the federation because they might actually get a drug test.

I have seen most of their drug test results. They do exist.

I was surprised at how many were tested. There were also failures.

If they are "not made public" how did you see them? What was the name of the laboratory on the paperwork?

I am an official.

Why don't they make the results public?

haha yeah that happens a lot apparently, seems shady to me but thats nothing new. i filled a cup after an ibp meet in 06 and asked to see the results only to be told that i passed and there's no reason to see the actual test. i asked again to see the test and didn't get an answer in return. don't know if it was actually tested or not but thats what happened.

Hey Derek, keith payne banned me from ironboy/north star pride for answering a PM, on his nsp forum, from Lucky, concerning an AAU bench meet that we were holding in SC to Honor Vietnam Veterans. It seems that keith payne is not very patriotic.

The IBP does drug test, it's a fact. Keith Payne has more integrity in his little finger than most have all together. IBP is a great federation for a beginner or a veteran powerlifter to lift in a fair level environment.

Now Patty I thought you were a grown women why do you have to act like a 3rd grader??????GROW UP

"CM", first of all, thank you for not swearing at me, this time. Second of all, obviously, you are not aware of all the changes in scheduling that meet honoring Vietnam Veterans in the name of a childhood friend, who died in Vietnam, due to Mr. Payne's and others' interference. Until you have all the truths, you may want to reserve your opinion and accusations.

That is right. When i was tested @ the AAU Worlds i recieved a copy of paperwork that goes to the lab and was told if a pink slip showed up in my mailbox it was a failed test.

Patty,
It was an honor to have lifted in the AAU All South Bench Press Championship. "A Tribute to our Vietnam Veterans" God bless Vernon Hollifield....

got ya beat, i was banned for "insulting others religious beliefs" because i didn't i wouldn't capitalize god

yeah i thought that too, gave every benefit of the doubt i could. Chip, i think you're a good guy from what i know of you but patty hasn't said anything that wasn't true. relax man

Thanks Chainman! It was good seeing you receive one of the custom crafted best lifter statues provided by the Hollifield family.

If you remember, the main speaker at the opening ceremony to honor Vernon, Sgt. Major Isreal Thames, was with Vernon, when he was killed at the Battle of Bong Trang. Sgt. Major Thames is a main contributor in a documentary film entitled, "Vietnam", which is now playing on the National Geographic Channel.
Thanks, again.

How many lifters were tested at event Patty?
Was your best lifter tested?

Is Keith Paynes lack of a stance against steriods the reson the AAU removed him from the nc chiar. did he also drop the ball in testing at those meets.

Nope. He is still the aau state chairman in NC.
There has only been one meet in SC and people are wondering if any drug tests were administered or if the best lifter was tested at that meet in SC.

Just answer the question Eddie or Patty.
Inquiring minds need to know.

Did AAU test anybody and who did they test at a local or state level meet in SC?

to the hijackers. this is about Keith Payne and the ibp. The AAU is not on trail here. the aau is taking steps to evict Payne in north carolina. that is a fact. does anyone know if this about his slack stance on drugs or is it for other reasons? i have friends who have lifted in the ibp since 2006 and they have never seen drug testing in nc

I have friends have lifted wih the IBP in the past and have been tested.

Dont avoid the question.

If the aau evicts payne wont that cut their meets down to just about nothing like it is in SC?

Does AAU test at anything other than national meets?

I'm just tired of certain people trying to stir up crap that is not true, why can't these people just get on with there lives and leave the rest alone. It's ridiculous.

D, the IBP does drug test. I have personally administered tests on several people in the last year I have been an oficial, and I was tested in 06' at the first full meet I did with IBP. The papers everyone keeps referring to that a lifter gets when he/she is tested are given to each lifter when they get a test, I still have mine, and know a few others that still have theirs. And as far as people saying they don't see lifters getting tested at meets, I didn't know it was required to send out a memo to let you know we were testing lifters...Maybe next time your at a meet, here's an easy way to find out ...ASK... I know typing this is probably a waste of my time, and will more than likely be bashed in some way, but I couldn't hold my tongue anymore.

Plain and simple the IBP is a great fed no matter what any of you say...I'm done.

This was written by Chip...forgot to write my name

Keith and IBP tests for drugs at the local state and regional level. Seen it and experienced it many times.

I think many IBP lifters like the AAU due to the rules being similar to the ones that they are used to and some of the same judges in IBP are also AAU judges.

However they probably would like to see the AAU step up and drug test other than at world meets.
They just dont want to be associated with some people in SC that are trying to run it.

Does the AAU test at the state and local level?

Did the AAU test anybody in SC at the only meet in two years that has been put on by the current state chair?

Was the best lifter at that meet tested?

Easy way to resolve all of this CHIP. Ask Payne to list all of the lifters who have passed over the past 2 years. Not the failed lifters, the lifters who have passed a drug test. This should be easy enough to do.

Is there an AAU banned lifter list posted so we can see it?

I went to an IBP meet in SC in October. It was a total joke. After a prayer and a ridiculous lecture about "north star pride" the competition started.

I knew 4 RAAAWWW (lol)lifters that were participating in the comp. Three set records and none were tested. The fourth would have destroyed the competition if he hadn't bombed on squat. He bombed, by the way, because he let his chest drop too much on a perfectly good squat that was taken to depth and completed (this was not the only good lift that got reds). He was also almost kicked out from the competition because one of the judges heard him say "fuck" after seeing the reds on his third attempt.

The meet itself was small and poorly run. The venue was crowded and lacked simple pieces of equipment (Who the fuck rolls their knee wraps by hand?). The bench moved all over the place making set up difficult and leg drive almost impossible.

The tiny squat and dead flights were more like a competition in cardiovascular conditioning, rather than strength. By the time lifters got their knee wraps off, it was time to rush to roll them back up and get them on for the next attempts. No amount of grip work could compare to the forearm pump that I got from wrapping 3 sets of wraps continuously for the duration of the squat flight.

I don't know who ran the meet, nor am I interested in the politics of a fed that I will never compete in. But I feel it needs to be said that it isn't just "scum buckets", "two-faced liars" and "multi-ply steroid using cheaters" that have had bad experiences with this federation.

My son-in-law received an e-mail from an Ironboy "official" attempting to sabotage the AAU meet to honor Vietnam Veterans in SC. As a 1968 Marine Corp combat Veteran of Vietnam, this really pissed me off!

We did not lift, but we did attend this meet. The opening ceremony was absolutely fantastic, with three of Vernon Hollifield's combat comrades present, including, Sgt. Major Isreal Thames! Two of them made speeches, while the other veteran could only wipe his teary eyes. After a minute of silence, to honor us, Vietnam Veterans, Taps was played by a US Army Bugler. Talk about not one dry eye in the building!!!!!! For possibly the first time, I was VERY proud to be a Vietnam Veteran.

What we have here is an AAU Chair, in NC, trying to sabotage an AAU meet in SC. Not just any meet, but a meet to honor a dead war hero and a whole generation of Vietnam Veterans, who were drafted and forced into combat.

Yet, these IBP "officials" are constantly on this forum using words like "integrity" and "honesty".

To the "lying scum buckets", who are in control of the AAU in SC, I say, "Thank You" from EVERY living Vietnam Veteran, and, especially, for our fallen comrades, who paid the ultimate price. Lifters, from our gym, will support any AAU opportunity that is presented to us in SC!

Semper Fidelis

http://www.aausports.org/sprt_Powerlifting.asp?a=sprt_Powerlifting_SubstanceAbuseSuspensionList.htm

This is funny Derek. I was banned from the NSP forum for making a comment about a IBP official. This official criticized the UPA of SC and the Kelly brothers for giving out satanic looking trophies (trophies with sculls on them)lol. This referee was not lifting but rather watching the meet.....figures.

That about says it all....thanks Bob.

Who is your son in law?

The guy that made the comment was lifting push pull that day.

You are right Whitey Green was lifting that day

You said "This official was not lifting but rather watching the meet".
He was lifting. I saw that in the results.

It’s amazing how finally karma has come to get this Keith Payne. It all started a few years ago after awsting Travis Mash, Chris Mason, Joey Smith, Barry Williams and many others from the fed after they embarrassed Keith’s best lifters and would not count their records that abolished all IBP records at the time. Now Keith preys on youth and the elder and trys to run a cult program, which is a joke and is all about the money. It’s a shame so many lifters that tried warn the ones that decided to stay and support Keith. Finally Derrick, Mark and a few others have finally smelt the roses and woke up to the reality of the IBP and Keith Payne.

Let me get this right. I looked at the list of AAU (which is a large PL organization) and there are only 3 banned lifters on the AAU banned list?

Here is usapl's list and it is a lot more than 3 lifters.
http://www.usapowerlifting.com/committees/drugtesting/suspend.shtml
Tim King
Chris Kostas
Steve Gavin
Antonio Garcia
Raphael Rodriguez
Chris Cain
Julie R Scanlon
Tim Robbins
Kevin McKnight
Sean Strefos
Dennis Montembault
Jessica Porter
Sam Evans
Tom Pennella
Glenn Pitts
Dustin Avant
Martin Beeler
Phil Horn
Daniel Eric Knight
Edward Sapienza
Ronald Ringewold
Ryan Risner
Cameron Miller
Jonathan Hoffman
Rick Kolbeck
Kenny Garrett
Brent Mikesell
Ryan Peters
Eric Zammitt
Chris Spade
Larry Wallen
Levi Niswander

Thanks for your confidence in us, Bob. The SC AAU is proud to announce that the AAU 2009 National Bench Press Championship and the AAU 2009 World Powerlifting Championship will be contested in the Palmetto State.

The AAU 2009 National Bench will be a fund raiser for the "Family Connection of South Carolina". http://www.familyconnectionsc.org/
This AAU event is scheduled for June 6th at Spartanburg High School in Spartanburg, S.C.

The AAU 2009 World Powerlifting Championship will be held in Myrtle Beach, S.C. in the fall.

Both of these events will be presented by the wonderful folks at Virginia Powerlifting. Details will soon be made available.

My father, John Morlino, served with the USMC in Korea.

Semper Fidelis

right on, sir. just seemed a bit shady to me that i directly asked for my papers and was denied. there's a HUGE difference between making people pee in a cup and actually sending it off and paying all the money to have it tested properly.

Whitey is likewise lifting in next weekend UPA meet. LOL..

I didn't mean to stir up all this. I've got friends in the IBP. Just a simple question on measures taken to keep the bad guys out.

fuck you rodney---you are a non committed piece of arrogant, self serving, two faced powerlifting shit--- you try to kiss everybody's ass and not piss anybody off---powerlifters with integrity hate people like you---find a fence that appeals to you--get on one side of it---AND STAY THERE!

As far as AAU Powerlifters in South Carolina are concerned, you can keep your sorry ass up there in North Carolina with keith pain. Hell, you two egocentric, self satisfying pricks deserve each other.

So why would Keith Payne have the need to be the AAU State Chairman if he is owner of the Iron Boy Federation (if you want to call it a federation)? Looks like he gets to steal the AAU referee's, keep AAU meets to a minimum, and control Powerlifting in the state of North Carolina. He sure does his best to keep the lifters out of other orgs and filling his collection basket.

Wayne, as long as imbeciles like yourself continue to inflict pure hatred on the IBP, I will defend them wherever I go.

Why don't you lie and claim that you had a rough CLUE what "integrity" meant until I forced you to the dictionary for the first time in your hardscrabble life, you harelipped quasi-illiterate GED dirt bag.

Holla back, Wayne.

As I anxiously await your next mishandling of the bait I'm feeding you, I remain

Smugly arrogant, and with good cause
Rodney

Hey Wayne, the AAU loves Rodney in SC. They gave him a shirt yesterday at the SC combine where out of the kindness of his heart he guess judged. Additonally, he's friends with both the AAU NC State Chair Keith Payne and the SC Chair Eddie Burnette... I don't like the tone of your postings and if you are indeed associated with the SC AAU in any way shape or form. I'll personally have you removed and will forward your post to Bill DePorter at the Nationals office.

Wow Wayne, I can just feel the love. It's your kind of attitude that has made the world such a wonderful place. But since I'm in Wisconsin, I'm sure you just see my post as, 'nawthun ah-gres-shun'. Damn Yankee

Yes, Rodney did come down and help us out, along w/ others, Michael Belk,Whitey Green, Mike Bomar, Ben Christopher, Wes Womack, Eric Hubbs, etc. This pretty much made all the judging AAU for the bench press for over 200 high school athletes.

All this talk about the AAU, I thought the AAU was virtually dead all over the US. Virginia has tried to keep it alive on the east coast for years but with the tragic, much too early loss of Barbara, that has faltered some. I guess Eddie and Patty are trying to grow it in SC now and I wish them well but this is the third or fourth organization they have tried to get involved with in SC over the past six or seven years. They obviously enjoy the sport and are always on the hunt for an organization where Eddie can be a big shot and Patty can try to be a champion lifter, they may have found that with the AAU, but if they haven't, they will abandon the AAU and move on to another organization in a year or two and they will criticize the AAU like they do every other org they have cast aside.

keith Payne and his cronies are finally gone from the NC AAU.

The AAU in South Carolina absolutely loves Rodney Allman-----In fact, Rodney and I have been working together for months, concerning the AAU National High School Combine Program. Rodney will head up this AAU Combine Program, in North Carolina, as soon as we can get it up and running.

Rodney will also be accompanying me to a meeting this week, with Major Don Sornson, Marketing Director, for the South Carolina National Guard, in Columbia, SC.

Our objective, at this meeting, with Major Sornson, will be to attain National Level financing, from the U.S. National Guard, to benefit AAU Strength Sports in North and South Carolina.

Rodney Allman and Eddie Burnett share one common goal: "Bring the states of North and South Carolina to the epitome and absolute forefront of powerlifting in America."

For reasons unknown, our goals to promote powerlifting, in our respective states, have brought out people who dislike us and want to undermine us.

Sorry, Rodney, I do not understand this attitude and frame of mind, which makes me unable to explain it.

Eddie Burnett
SC AAU Powerlifting

Eddie,
you and Rodney will be a awesome team. did not know you had so much in common.

Good post it pretty much says it all.

Eddie:
I have to disagree.
Meeting you and getting to know you is what brings about any dislike. Nobody wants to undermine you.

We want to distance ourselves from you.

Move on and quit bothering me and any of my good friends.

Well, I guess old Wayne Brown was spot on with his assertion that I don't want to piss anyone off.

That said, I'm removing my name from affiliation with any Federation other than the one I'm currently training for. The USAPL.

I'm concentrating on training and lifting, NOT the bullshit involved with the politics betweenst the AAU and IBP. I do intend on my kids participating in both these Federations and I'll likely lift in them in the future.

Best of luck to the State Chairs of both the AAU and IBP in your future endeavors.

Truth of the matter is this, no matter what federation you lift in, the whole NC State cohesion is out the window! Keith Payne has done a pretty good job splitting lifting groups and destroying his own credibility at the same time. Now naturally some wise ass will come on here and say post with your real name, you don't know Keith... please..! My message is clear and it hits home, quit the federation hating and just re-establish friendships that were once there and it does not matter where you lift. My opinion of him has always been the same he is shady and money hungry for the weak minded sheep that follow his flock!

I'd have to agree with you. NC was once a great PL'ing state. Now it is shredded with hate and backyard meets. Sad, truly sad.

Mr. Payne has already canceled two meets this year in N.C. Thank God....

He'll be cancelling many more. The word is out on him and bad news travels fast. The lifters of NC were lied to and deceived by Payne. His credibility is shot.

This thread has become ridiculous. The IBP is an awesome Fed. and lifters will keep going no matter what you narrow minded people say. So stop being so hateful. If "YOU" don't like the IBP then by all means don't lift there, go somewhere else and stop bashing everybody else.......geeez.

I had lifted with IBP before they started drug testing and after they started drug testing. I saw a big improvement with the type of people that competed. Keith has always run a very good meet. IBP was my first powerlifting meet and I loved it. I also lifted with other organizations other than IBP, they were ok, the people were not as friendly, always looking out for #1. We do sing the national anthem and pray before the meets at IBP. This organization is more family friendly than any other as well. Being around Keith, my impression of him is a quiet man who wants whats best for the sport, he doesn't brag or boast about what he can do or has done in the past. You don't need to wrap yourself in the flag to be patriotic, you don't have to martyr yourself to do what's right. Some steroids and other "supplements" are banned by the US Gov. so why break the law to gain a little notoriety. The reason I do not lift any more is that I have gained weight and stopped working out. It's not that I can't do it anymore. I don't get on these discussion boards often, because of the hatefulness that goes on between most of the competing organizations. The one thing that I have noticed from sitting back and watching is that where ever Patty and Eddie Burdette show up there is always bickering and fighting. The only thing they do is bring the sport down and divide good organizations. Ask yourself this, how many organizations and people has this couple left or drug down?

Mr.Ray,
I don't know you or anything about you. I can tell you think you know about the South and how we are down here. You are mistaken when you call yourself a Damn Yankee because you are not. You sir, are a good yankee. Why, you ask ? because your ass is still in Wisconsin, a Damn Yankee is one who comes down here and falls in love with our hospitality, our cooking and the way we are. They also like it so much that the make the move down here to tell us how it was done up there and how much better it was. My husband was a damn yankee but he has been converted and liberated. Bless your heart! That's southern for, "your a dumbass".

I love how you say you don't know anything about me, THEN proceed to:

- tell me what I think I know;
- tell me that I'm mistaken in my identity;
- tell me what I am.

Well, I know plenty about you:

- (based on 2 posts now), you're hateful;
- you're rude;
- you're wrong about me;
- you have no sense of humor.

I was born in Memphis, TN and I didn't call myself a Damn Yankee - that was Yosemite Sam talking.

On a lighter note...Paris Hilton STILL looks like a cross dressin' emu !

Carl, I gotta disagree - I've always liked her.

a good girl