2008 All-American & All-World Powerlifting Teams Named

What a great concept! I have always believed that PL Watch rankings are the most meaningful and informative PL rankings out there are this is no exception. Thanks for all the effort in compiling this data.

did matt smith get a total in 2008?

Why didn't Mastrean make the single ply all world team? His 1000 kilo total at the 2008 Arnold gave him the #1 ranking in 2008 for 242's in the IPF.

Malanichev in the SHW? At Cup of Titans he weighted 285-290lbs.

How about a masters team?

I fucking rule.

Mark JackAss Bell
Owner of Super Training in Sacramento.
www.supertraininggym.com

lol, yeah... good job mark, not too shabby for a guy doing his first single ply meet.

and for all you andy bolton guys, spare us the crying, because we all know its coming. andy is great, just didnt quite make it this year.

and so modest too.

-Bill

holy shit krystal cary is first team!

Big Iron!!!

All American? All World? I'm guessing this terminology and concept makes sense to Americans? Care to enlighten the rest of the world?

Thanks

Jay

Hey what about a masters and Teenage team. Lets not forget the young and old guys.

If you eally want to get lifters interested have a Elite lifter total list in all the weight classes all the lifters who totaled Elite this past year.

2,530 at LexenXtreme Pro-Am in January.

Those would be federation specific lists.

a little correction for your 1st team single ply All Worlds : Hassan El Belghiti is French and not egyptian !

Mastrean was beaten head to head by Rokochiy at IPF Worlds. Barkhatov's Russian Nationals total was significantly higher than Mastreans Arnold total.

Information regarding Malanichev's actual weight was not available.

It's a possibility in the future.

All-American = The top lifters from America.
All-World = The top lifter from around the World.

In the states, most sports have this sort of thing at the professional and collegiate levels.

See above.

Corrected! Thank you.

Great idea.

Ryan Celli @ 198 but not David Ricks or Mike Bridges? Really?

If you feel Celli is a bad choice, what were the numbers for all 3? (Use Celli's USPF numbers.)

A couple choices for SHW, especially if there turns out to be a Masters' list --

Jim Pope
Wade Johnson

Nice work!

I want to applaud Jon's effort in bringing this great new feature!

Jon continues to come up with some great ways to involve the powerlifter. Receiving recognition on the All-Powerlifting Teams is another way to recognize the great acheivements of those who have excelled on the platform. The names listed for the 2008 teams are quite impressive!!!

Jim
Maryland Powerlifting

1 Tim 4:7-8

Nice work, Jon! Keep up the good work.

Phillip Wylie

Jon you should take some of the feds charts like USPF, or USAPL for single ply and then APF, APA for multi ply and come up with POWERLIFTING WATCH ELITE RANKINGS for the year. Then list all the lifters who achieved a Elite total. More guys would want to join to see if they made the list or not. You could even come up with a POWERLIFTING WATCH ELITE LIFTER PATCH for that year. Do not worry you could make your own elite rankings by takeing some of the feds averages.

elite totals are a joke with multiply gear. I totalled elite at 165 and im nothing, for now.

Jon, I love the lists... good choices

Putt Houston.... now with more Bom Chicka Wahwahhhhhh

After the BCS champioship game NBC has agreed to do a one on one interview with me about my recent all world nomination.

Also I have been asked to replace Hugh Jackman as the host of the Oscars this year.

With great power comes great responsibility!

Mark JackAss Bell
All-World Single Ply 308
Owner of Super Training in Sacramento.
www.supertraininggym.com

Oh, don't sell yourself short, Mick - you're really something, LOL!

Thanks for taking the time to do this, Jon.

im striving to look like you!

Presumably, the "awards" are based on one's performance in the year 2008. Granted, Siders is the best and strongest SHW. However, he B-52 @ IPF Worlds. Thus, he really did not earn the award for 2008.

Siders' and Malanichev's totals were so far beyond the other supers that their IPF Worlds, or lack thereof, were not a factor.

Thank you for the suggestion. It's something to be tossed around a bit.

what about bolton 2777 at wpc worlds compared to ipa

and how can you have donnie on top with those squat's what a joke

Thompson's total was far higher. Alhazov's was at a Pro-Am and was higher.

Federations make the judgement on the legitimacy of a lift not Powerlifting Watch. That would lead quickly to a very slippery slope.

So...........what's the point? Keeping track of single and multi-ply? Just plainly stupid. Raw is the word boys.

RAW's cool but no one cares about a guy doing a 800lb RAW squat. Its cool and everything but most people wana see the gear whore squat 1200+

I didn't know you spoke on behalf of all powerlifters. Yeah, Scott Weesh dunking 800 is tons less exciting than watching DT's unlock his knees in a monolift, ROFL.

Master's world team? What did you set the 65-70 masters world record? After age 18 everyone should lift in the open division. Screw the fireman, masters, and amputee divisions. if you want competition quit trying to thin the field.

Daniel Williams is the best single ply at 198, Enough said

I'd like to see that come about too!

Staff,

Can ST be up for fattest team???

Mark JackAss Bell
All-World Single Ply 308
Owner of Super Training in Sacramento.
www.supertraininggym.com

I think they decided on the best being the one who put up the highest total. Pretty silly way of doing it huh?

same.

maybe when you give your info to John to post they could put like (M) next to your name. That way at the end of the yr, he could just run down the list and pull the names right off the top 50.

Sorry Treston but no. Seeing Weech hit a 800 raw squat, walked out, taken to below parallel, is something plenty of 1000-1200 squatters could not do.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "most people" - when PL was at it's "golden era" as far as total popularity was concerned, gear was tons tons more limited than now. On top of that, there is a RAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW "movement" or at least a less gear movement occurring.

its so funny how when the guys that use all this gear always say "oh its not the gear" but whenever somebody lift a really good number the first damn thing they ask...what was he wearing a katana,a phenom,a bla,bla,bla if its not the gear then why the hell do you care????

I beg to differ Anonymous, I do think there are plenty of 1000-1200lb geared squatters that could walk out and squat 800+lbs. But why would they want to?

Better chance of getting hurt if you ask me.

And by most people I mean the avg joe on the street who doesnt know much of a diff between gear or RAW. Ive been around PL for almost 9yrs and my friends or just reg people I talk to dont really care if the lifter is RAW or geared they just know that a 1200lb squat is more than an 800lb squat.

And were not talking about the golden era, that was then this is now. What the American society would like to see is big weight moved by big men, end of story.

Theres a RAW movement because federations are starting to open up to the idea of RAW. Im all for expanding the sport especially when it will attract 1st time lifters or the person that cant afford all the gear in the beginning.

Congrats Stella!!

HAHA thats funny since im sure his warm up weight without gear is still more then any of your lacky's in the gym can do. Gear makes you stronger RAW to.

bottom line if your lifts were strong raw then you would not want gear....u peaked out and thought of another way u can see whats its like to hold heavy weight in your hand so u went to gear lmao

For f****s sake, can't there be any thread where the raw lovers don't come on and say show me your naked lifts? We are such a small fractured sport, can't we just respect each other?

JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW DAN WILLIAMS MAKES SECOND TEAM WHEN HE WINS IPF OPEN WORLDS? SOUNDS GOOD ENOUGH TO BE FIRST TEAM TO ME!!!

Exactly. There is more to this than just totals.

Ryan Celli's total was dramatically higher. In addition, Celli won at the USPF Nationals, which could be argued as being as high a level as his federation's Worlds.

No, it couldn't. Williams won against the best the world had to offer head to head under strict judging and drug tested conditions. Celli is a great lifter, but there is no comparison between the two feats. The USPF is simply far too small to have any kind of world meet or even legitimate National meet - not enough depth. All lifters are permitted to attempt to qualify for the IPF USA world team if they want to, but until they do that and win IPF worlds, they are not better than someone who has won IPF worlds. Have you ever been to an IPF worlds, Staff?

I agree that winning IPF Worlds is much, much harder, but I believe Celli performed his lifts to, 'accepted standards'. Ryan's numbers were higher, but in the end, it's just opinions. There's no award ceremony, with lifters stepping out of limos, strolling down a red carpet.

Your comment on depth of competition is absolutely correct. However, Celli's overwhelming total made up for that. If the totals had been closer, the first team would have gone to Williams.

Drug testing or lack thereof was not a factor in establishing the all-american teams.

Your comments are appreciated.

I respect your opinion and I thank you for all you have done with this site but I just disagree with this choice - I don't expect either one of us to lose any sleep over it though.

USPF: no depth of competition, looser judging on the squat - about the same for BP and DL - allows briefs under the suit, no drug testing

IPF Worlds: very strict judging, drug tested, very deep international competition, no briefs on the squat.

But still, as the other poster said, it's just an opinion. Also just an opinion: Celli may do very well at an IPF Worlds.

also, longer knee wraps, looser bench rules, squat bar, okie dl bar, 24 hr weigh in and longer-slower flights. you cannot compare. the uspf is as close as you can get to multi-ply in terms of these factors.

jon struggles with what is right and advertisers sponsored lifters. and with the comment that the uspf nationals is comparable to ipf worlds is a dis-service to the sport. you cannot make an argument for that. damn, all this time i thought you knew the sport.

Agree 100% - that comment was just way off, that's why I tried to explain that a higher total by 115lb (6%) in the USPF is not better if the lower total was a victorious one in the IPF worlds battle. However, in defense of John, he does a great job with this site and when you put that much work into something, occasionally things slip through the cracks and I think that's what happened here.

Thanks for highlighting the additional rule differences between IPF and USPF - I didn't know of these. These rule differences probably also explain why 10-20 years ago, the USA team members totals dropped a lot when they went to IPF worlds (not a drug issue).

That argument was never made. You've misunderstood. USPF Nationals was never compared to IPF Worlds. Winning USPF Nationals was comparable to winning WPF Worlds.

so most of you are only happy if single ply only includes IPF guys. then it is not single ply american team but the IPF team. he beat him by 100+#. you are crazy if you think at that USPF Nationals meet judging was not strict.

USPF compared to multi-ply feds is about as hilarious as saying the IPF is drug free.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQEObbgBReI&feature=channel_page